Talk: Thrall: Twilight of the Aspects

Useless speculation[]

I am editing out this paragraph:

"Based on the title, it will likely focus on Thrall and how he may serve the abandoned role of Aspect of Earth as was talked about by Chris Metzen at BlizzCon."

It's very likely the Metzen meant that comment as a joke or a red herring (think about how secretive Blizzard was about the Lich King fight and the end of Wrath, to the point that they put the files for the fight in after patch 3.3 proper... do you really think Metzen would spoil the ending before the expansion even came out?)

Besides, even if it turns out to be true, at the moment this paragraph is simply useless speculation. It is infering a whole lot from a short cryptic comment by Metzen and the title of a book. If a plot summary emerges from a credible source that claims that the book is based on Thrall becoming an Aspect of Earth, then we can put that in, but to put such speculation in now is simply misleading.Skreeran (talk) 15:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Characters?[]

The book isn't out yet, so how can we sure that those are the characters appearing in it? --Sairez (talk) 23:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

It was added by LemonBaby. Reverting for now to not spread misinformation. --g0urra[T҂C] 00:16, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

It was for the most part incorrect but I added the confirmed ones as a Son of Storm guy gave away some information. Hallowseve15 (talk) 01:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I used the list posted by Medievaldragon [1]. Don't know why think it was for the most part incorrect. Do you already have the book? --LemonBaby (talk) 10:17, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't have the book, but I've seen spoilers about it on other sites related to WoW. Hallowseve15 (talk) 11:26, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, but which of the characters were incorrect according to your spoilers? --LemonBaby (talk) 11:27, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, I looked at the link and it seems relevant, so I would just add them all back, isn't he a Son of Storm? Hallowseve15 (talk) 11:29, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure but I think so...--LemonBaby (talk) 11:31, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Wtf Sons of the Storm? Afaik, Blizzplanet's Medievaldragon posted some sneak peek info at Scrolls of Lore, where another user taht got an early copy, Anasterian, is posting a full summary. I think both are trustworthy.--Lon-ami (talk) 11:35, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Regardless, the book isn't even out yet, and we're not allowed to post content that haven't been published. I can't find the exact source for that statement, but that's how it goes here. --g0urra[T҂C] 11:36, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

The link is in the forum, http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/938078-Thrall-Twilight-of-the-Aspects-spoilers-%28read-at-your-own-risk%29. See it for yourself. Hallowseve15 (talk) 11:44, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I searched for a Wowpedia guidline regarding book content but I couldn't find one. We used to post content about PTR or Beta long before official release. We even posted that Kalec will become the new Aspect when nothing has been published just be taking statements. So I'm not sure wheter it goes here that way.--LemonBaby (talk) 11:52, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Nothing had been published about Kalec, no, but there was a direct statement by Metzen to that effect. Had we added it based on datamined information that would have been different. In this case, the official release date is the 19th; the fact that a few people got it early shouldn't change that. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I say we don't remove what we have, but we shouldn't add anything more yet. Wait for the 19 and don't be impatient :P.--Lon-ami (talk) 10:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Alternate versions[]

I suggest that each character from the alternate timeline should either get an own page or an own section (see Aedelas Blackmoore). Reason: They are not the same characters. They have a different history and even existed double in the case of Thrall. So lets handle this like other wikis with alternate timelines like Star Trek. The infobox about Aedelas Blackmoore beeing the Ruler of Lorderon just felt... wrong...--LemonBaby (talk) 19:32, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I think the alternate versions could probably just get a separate section on the main page... Definitely without the second infobox, though. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:38, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Like [[Aedelas Blackmore (alternate)]] and [[Uther Menethil (alternate)]]?--Ashbear160 (talk) 21:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

That seems to be what LemonBaby is advocating. It don't feel there's any reason to make separate pages; just a paragraph of "this is what happened in an alternate timeline" should be sufficient. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:04, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

By the way, Uther Menethil has a page, and has no main-timeline counterpart.--SWM24 48 22:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Or, like in the mentioned article, have a section that is just called "Alternate timeline" and contains the information about it. There is no need to make separate articles, and no additional infoboxes - the infobox is for the main storyline/history that we know, and the section summary should be enough. --g0urra[T҂C] 22:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I am fine with just a seperate section as long as there is no "alternate timeline"-information in the main-infobox. That would just be confusing. By the way other wikis did indeed make seperate pages for each alternate charakter like Star Trek or Heroes. --LemonBaby (talk) 11:50, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Alternate section would be enough, like said before, second infoboxes or all infos in one infobox would be disturbing and confusing

Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (^talk/_contribz) 07:04, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Alternate timelines and the characters therein are considerably more prevalent in Star Trek and Heroes than in WoW, though. Hell, I lost count how many times the Mirrorverse guys popped up in Star Trek. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 07:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

You are right. Just wanted to point it out and discuss the possibilities--LemonBaby (talk) 08:13, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm late, but what about:

"Alternate Aedelas Blackmoore", and then include a section called "alternate version" after the non-alternate background.

Of course, this would be for lists only. No new articles for alternate people.--Lon-ami (talk) 20:39, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I thought there already was one for him? --g0urra[T҂C] 21:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm talking about the list on the novel article -_-.--Lon-ami (talk) 11:49, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

That list would contain exactly two people: Blackmoore and Taretha. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 16:42, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Blackmoore, Taretha, Krasus and Nozdormu (the alternate Nozdormu is the one from the altnerate future who leads the infinite flight)--LemonBaby (talk) 16:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I don't have the list on this computer, but I remember at least these: Krasus, Krasus' apprentice, Taretha and Blackmoore. And then we have a load of mentions: Uther Menethil, Arthas, Jaina, Varian, Kel'Thuzad, Uther, Lothar, Orgrim, Taretha's parents... a good number of them, in my opinion.--Lon-ami (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Deleted Characters[]

Hey guyz, why were many characters deleted? They were at least MENTIONED so I think they should keep in the article... --Mordecay (talk) 19:37, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

See Forum:Character lists for novels.--SWM24 48 23:19, 17 September 2011 (UTC)