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Overhaul of Patch_mirrors page

Blizzard is finally offering REAL patch files to 4.01.13164 &, as evident by this page (Atomicgamer for instance offers those files too):

I believe it's time to edit the page so we can list patches for each region again, as before, not just those MPG & TFIL files.

Existence WoWWiki

How long will WoWWiki be online yet? I may want to copy/paste articles from there when the articles there are more recent than those that have already been copied to here. Hans Kamp (talk) 19:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikia will maintain WoWWiki indefinitely. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 19:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay, then I won't have to rush the editing of the articles. :) Hans Kamp (talk) 19:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

An offer of service

Now that we have made the transition - and I hope that Blizzard does too - I offer what service I can provide...such as it is. :) --Joshmaul (talk) 19:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Um, thanks? Just change WoWWiki to Wowpedia where it makes sense to, as well as any other outdated stuff. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 19:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Has there been a move to change the site on Blizzard's fansite listing? --Joshmaul (talk) 19:20, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
We're working on it. Kaydeethree is going to talk to them at Blizzcon. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 19:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit Count Display and Quantity Errors

Just happened to notice that the edit count is not showing on user pages and there is a significant discrepancy between the old and the new. Past that, grats on the move and I again think it is for the better in the long term. Ariule (talk)

Yeah, we're aware of the problem. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much that can be done. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 00:06, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
If there is nothing to be done, then that is the way it shall be. Not a problem at all, just wanted it to be on the "aware" list. Ariule (talk)
Did the edit counts get completely reset as it appears from this side? Ariule (talk)
They're reset, but obviously they can be re-figured from counting your contributions. Which is a big chore for as many users as we have. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 01:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Again, not a problem, It was fun watching the counter click and making it the 1k club was cool and all that. Perhaps a "Feat of Strength Achievement" seal and new seals for the new edit clubs. Just a thought. Ariule (talk)

On Name Changes...

Don't mean to be rude or anything, but if it's not too much trouble, could I maybe get my username changed to Teth? Thanks. -- Inv staff 81.png Sebreth (T.C) 02:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 02:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Huh. I thought it'd be more of a bother than that. Thanks a ton, bro. -- Inv staff 81.png Teth (T.C) 02:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


Now that you're here, do you want a name change? You don't need the WoWWiki- prefix anymore. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 04:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, please. Suzaku will suffice. WoWWiki-Suzaku (talk) 04:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
I, too, would like the prefix removed to leave just Stadanko. Thanks. WoWWiki-Stadanko (talk) 13:10, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Chrome search title

Congrats on the move! I wanted to report an error I noticed earlier searching the site via the Google Chrome omnibar. Quick recap: Chrome recognizes searches on a site, and thenceforth when it sees you typing the url it will offer you the ability to press tab and enter keywords to search using the site's search functionality. When you do press tab, Chrome places an icon on the left side of the omnibar that says "Search [site name]:". When I searched Wowpedia for the first time, [site name] is still "WoWWiki" according to Chrome. I don't know where it pulls this name from, but apparently it didn't get changed over. Threw me for a loop for a second. I'm aware you can change this name manually, which I've done, but obviously the default should be fixed.

TLDR: The Chrome omnibar search functionality still calls Wowpedia "WoWWiki".

...and grr, it looks like I'm unable to repro this; when I delete the search from Chrome and make it re-generate it, "" is displayed now. Still could be because of my edit though, so I guess I'll let you guys take a look at it just to be sure. Perhaps you fixed it already. - Jerodast (talk) 08:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Sidebar & Other Graphical Improvements

Hi Pcj,
Congrats on the move and a new shiny Vector skin.
If you are wondering how to have a 100% customisable sidebar with minimal fuss, Aionopedia uses an extensions named CustomNavBlocks or sumthing like that.
Also for the edit article box that in typing this in, you may want to consider using the UsabilityInitiative until they have a easily plug-in for CKEditor.
If you want sum help with customising the Vector skin i know it very well and more than help you out. Aionopedia Bohtauri (talk) 13:44, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Not particularly interested, thanks. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 13:44, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikia reference in DNP policy

Hiya! Just randomly trawling around the new site (love it, btw), and came across a reference to Wikia's ToU (and a broken link, to boot). Specifically, in the [DNP Policy] article. I'm not sure where that link really should point, and it's an important enough part of the policies that I really don't want to get it wrong. So, the next best option seems to be "alert an admin". Well, consider yourself alerted.  :) --PaxArcana (talk) 04:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC) ->

Please modify interwiki links. We did it on Thx. Strizh (talk) 13:22, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Will do, most of the Curse staff is busy with Blizzcon atm so it may be next week. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 13:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
OK, now it's done. There seems to be some sort of hidden "job queue" while it goes through all the pages. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 03:36, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Please modify interwiki links from to (trouble with search engine indexes). Thx. Strizh (talk) 08:31, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

User Account Migration

Hi there. Just following up on this discussion, where foxlit mentioned some Perl scripts you used to import user accounts. I was just wondering if you could let me know how this worked, and what you used? Many thanks Adam (talk) 11:27, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Multiple File Upload Page Broken

Recieve the following error with both FireFox and IE

Fatal error: Call to undefined method UploadForm::UploadForm() in /home/wowpedia/public_html/extensions/MultiUpload/SpecialMultipleUpload.body.php on line 72

Posted it here Forum:Multiple Upload Page Error But was unsure if in the chaos of the move it may simply have been overlooked.

Please advise. Ariule (talk) 01:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

e-mail validation not working

Hey there, since you "pulled" me over, I thought I'd make it your problem :p
Taking over my account here worked fine, except setting my e-mail address seems to cause some troubles => I don't receive the validation e-mail. Now I don't know whether gmail blocks it or wowpedia does not send it, but I just checked the spam to be sure. So maybe there's a problem with the mailserver setup? -watchouT 02:25, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

great, a classic. Just tried again and this time it worked... So everything's fine the prim is back -watchouT 02:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Nice. :) --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 02:29, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Nested sidebar site navigation

Please see MediaWiki talk:Sidebar. --Timeshifter (talk) 09:08, 29 October 2010 (UTC) has been archived here:
I think MediaWiki:Sidebar here could be opened in edit mode, and some or all of the old Monaco site navigation could be added to the bottom. I believe the Vector skin would automatically put nearly all of it in nested form. With open/close arrows. I am curious if that is true. If that is true, then if things don't work out at Wikia I may move my wiki to a wiki farm that has the Vector skin. I don't know how long it will be though, before the MediaWiki-based wiki farms upgrade to version 1.16 of MediaWiki. I believe version 1.16 is the first non-beta version with the Vector skin as the default skin. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:55, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Item template is causing infinite loop

I tried to use that template in Patch_4.0.3_(undocumented_changes) but why does it cause an infinite loop? In User:Hans_Kamp/Test and here it doesn't:  [Peacebloom]. Please try to fix it. Then I will see what changes you made to prevent the loop. Hans Kamp (talk) 06:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

This was caused because of the missing of the tooltip of Justice point. The tooltip is placed at the left. That needs yet to be fixed. I wonder how you will fix it, because copying the text of the article to a new one places the tooltip to the left for reasons, not known by me. Hans Kamp (talk) 07:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Fixed it myself. The name parameter of {{tooltip}} must be exactly the same (case sensitive) as the article name. Hans Kamp (talk) 07:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Had to Re-login again.

Hey Pcj, its me Sairez, I was doing some edits and noticed that I while I cruising the site I was logged out and I didn't log myself out. I don't why it logged me out. --Sairez (talk) 04:12, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Banning Sannse

Good day Pcj, I would ask you to reconsider your recent ban of Sannse. While I'm aware that it is in response to events at WoWWiki, I would suggest that we should not allow ourselves to stoop to their level. Let Wikia's foolish actions expose themselves for who they are, and let the community judge with its choice of where to go. We don't need to do anything to help them shoot themsleves in the foot. They (Wikia) do a good job of that on their own these days. For your consideration, Ddcorkum (talk) 02:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

See this edit for the reason. --k_d3 02:27, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Seen -- I guessed it was in relation to that, but admittedly when I read Sannse' comment I don't understand what the "problem" is exactly. Is it that contributions were copied over? Ddcorkum (talk) 02:29, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
If you could figure out what Sannse's actually saying I'd award you an internet or two. --k_d3 02:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
"This problem" = Sannse being on Wowpedia? Sannse editing Wowpedia while being associated with Sannse (as opposed to a fresh sockpuppet)? Wowpedia as a whole? I want an internet... Edit: Based on kd3's comment/hint, does Sannse think that we would use the copied account for slander?--SWM2448 03:33, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you.

Thank you for taking your time to look over my work and edit where you saw fit. it helps me a lot to see what mistakes i've made and all for i am still new to editing and adding information to this site. though i plan to be a heavy contributer.

Kinaria (talk) 18:58, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry, it's at Magma Plated Battlearmor#Heroic now. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 19:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Question about making New item Pages.

When i make a new Item page.. i copy the entire page of an Old item and just make name and stat changes and then when i save it.. the item box is on the left side of the page when it should be on the Right side. how do i fix this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kinaria (talk · contr).

The item name in the tooltip has to match the name of the page, or you have to use the disambigpage parameter. See {{tooltip}} for more details. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 20:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

thank you! Kinaria (talk) 20:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

BTW, this is case sensitive. Hans Kamp (talk) 20:42, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Cannot make edits anymore.

When I do an edit to an article, I get "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in." Hans Kamp (talk) 10:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Broken template?

It seems the template - 1337 Honor Points - (or whatever this is) intended for the currency "Honor Point" redirects to the in-game location with the same name instead. Just click the pic and you'll notice. I don't know how to fix it, but perhaps you do? Just thought I'd mention it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WrathOfDeathfrost (talk · contr).

Fixed. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 17:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Argh, one second too late on adding my signature which I noticed I'd forgotten... but thanks for the help! WrathOfDeathfrost (talk) 17:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Your userpage

"There's a problem with your tooltips/the AJAX RC..."
"...or Wikia changed something..."

While I agree they fail on a depressingly regular basis, they won't be responsible for any problems now. Update? :-)

Sorry for bothering you over something so trivial, when I get bored I just wander around the wiki so occasionally notice stuff like this. A F K sig 2.jpg A F K When Needed 21:11, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Good catch, thanks. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 21:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Content needs revising since the split.

Hey, i was looking at Wowpedia:FAQ#Chat and noticed some of it hasn't been revised since the split, and is now out-of-date, was going to edit it, but im not sure what to change it to. Human Paladin Loremaster Mosios (Gossipgossipicon.png Bindergossipicon.png) 14:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Faction split quest pages

Noticed your edits of the Elemental Unrest Phase 4 quest pages, looks like WoWWiki never had that sort of nifty faction integration. Deepred (talk) 01:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

A question about one of your latest templates

Hello, I found this template today: {{Faction switch}}. It's been a time since I've wanted to make my own template with that "switch window" feature, but only a few wikis used it, and it was a mess of a code. It's the first time I see it at WoWPedia, and it seems easier than I originally expected.

Would you mind explaining (shortly) how it works, or linking some tutorial? (I'm not sure how this functionality is called, so it's hard to find anything around it)

My main objective is to apply it to {{Bookfooter}}, allowing you to see the different sections without having to open new articles. If it works, I could try making something similar for {{Dungeons}} (currently being discussed as to be split or not).

Hope you can lend me a hand. Thanks from advance :P.--Lon-ami (talk) 13:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Category Deletion

I noticed you deleted Category:Casual guilds, however we currently have both Category:PvP guilds and Category:PvE guilds. If we're willing to have guild pages broken down in that manner, why would Casual or RP guilds not have the same treatment? Hooper (talk) 17:14, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

RP guilds do receive the same treatment, casual guilds are not the same type of breakdown. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 17:16, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
May I ask that you explain your reasoning a bit? I would argue that they are the exact same type of breakdown, being one of the only four types of guilds I've ever heard of in four years of playing, and seeing the term used exactly the same as the three categories of guilds we currently have when guilds recruit. Hooper (talk) 17:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
So what do you think of when you say "casual"? You do both PvE and PvP - maybe a little RP? Then put all the categories on there. I'm not seeing the issue. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 17:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Casual is exactly what the term means. To place one of the other terms would imply that a guild actively pursues to be that type, like PvE, PvP, and RP guilds do - which is why they use those terms when advertising. A casual guild may do both but is not actively pursuing to do them or defining their entire guild structure around one or the other. Its not a big deal, I just don't understand why it wouldn't be given the same treatment. Hooper (talk) 17:27, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Kirsten Westmill and future pages.

I took a picture of her when I gathered the info, but I couldn't find it when I was checking my screenshot folder. Thanks for uploading picture of her, I appreciate it!! I'll be updating any new NPCs/Mobs I found since the new patch. Thanks for the welcoming as well! Killmehorde (talk) 17:55, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Just thoguht you should be aware

A user decided to do some vandalizing on his way out of WoWWiki over to Wowpedia. Deadlykris (talk) 15:58, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Obsolte quests protocol

Could you help me find the policies governing pages covering now obsolete questlines, NPCs, etc.? I'm looking for pages to clean up and there are still a lot of them about quests that no longer exist. Are we preserving this information? Let me know how I can help out! (You can respond here or on my talk page, whichever is easier.) -- Metaneira (talk) 20:55, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Quick follow-up: if we add the {{Removedfromgame}} template, should we remove the other categories? I would think that the "Quests in Feralas" category, for example, should only contain current quests, but what's the policy? -- Metaneira (talk) 21:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
And one more question -- I'm assuming that some categories are added from templates (e.g., H [50] Natural Materials). Do we have an obsolete questbox template to use that won't populate categories? Or do I just remove the questbox? (Sorry for bugging you so much!) -- Metaneira (talk) 21:38, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Magni Bronzebeard

Why does it have "==== <!-- Don't remove --> ====" creating empty calories in the TOC? I figured I'd ask the nearest admin since you left my welcome message. --Espantish (talk) 04:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Huh, that's annoying. Thanks for pointing it out, we'll look at it. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 04:14, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Alright, cool. While I have your attention, is there a script or some tool people use to import item and quest data? I'd like to help if I can, but I don't want to bang my head against any tables unnecessarily. --Espantish (talk) 04:48, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone else answered on my talk page. Thanks anyway! Keep up the good work. --Espantish (talk) 05:49, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Wowpedia:Autoconfirmed users

Is this not true? It says I am an autoconfirmed user. Funny Bunny (talk) 01:45, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, you portrayed it incorrectly, the effect is unintentional if it exists. Not that it matters much for now. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 01:51, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet blocking

I'm assuming you're using CheckUser to determine this? --Gengar orange 22x22.png Fandyllic (talk · contribs) 10:13 PM PST 6 Dec 2010

Why do you care? Yes. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 05:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Recent Armory link changes

Looks like you changed all the old links to use the new URL's. There's just one problem. In the URL the realm names and character names need to be lower cased; otherwise, you get a big "character not found" error page. Edit: Or not, it appears to be something else. Edit again: Oh, it's a dash rather than a plus for a space in realm's name. —EGingellTC Treader of Cenarion Circle 21:51, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Meh, it wasn't working anyway. I tried a couple of links and they seemed to work, though. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 21:53, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Spaces are converted to "-" and apostrophes are stripped (Anub'arak => Anubarak and Cenarion Circle => Cenarion-Circle); however, the URL is not case-sensitive. It's quite dumb, really. —EGingellTC Treader of Cenarion Circle 22:23, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Support from Blizzard?

The other day I was having a look at my characters on Hovering over a profession will display two external links for that profession, to Wowhead and Wowpedia (which I guess you know anyway...). I know wowhead is pretty popular, but it surprised me they had included Wowpedia. I thought Blizzard were hesitant when it came to supporting Wowpedia, which is why Wowpedia is hosted by Curse instead. Have they mentioned anything else concerning any cooperation, or did it just appear out of the blue? WrathOfDeathfrost (talk) 12:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

We were already aware of it. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 20:47, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Yea, but are they doing anything else besides linking to us, such as considering hosting us (if it would be needed) or donating? I'm just asking out of curiosity. WrathOfDeathfrost (talk) 16:25, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
We'll be working with them more going forward. I doubt WoWWiki will have much pull. Blizzard hosting us was always a pipe dream. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 04:06, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

NPC code issue

I copied the page from another NPC, and just changed the names. Morris Lawry If there is a template to use instead, I will be more than happy to use such. Ariule (talk)

  • Thanks for the link. I will add it to the toolbox.

Boss loot

This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: New user adding external links/videos

Please advise.

Broken css

Your css appears to be fatally broken. Please fix it. --Wynthyst (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh... nvm, it seems to be a server glitch cuz it's fine now :D --Wynthyst (talk) 21:56, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

removing my additions?

Why do you keep removing my additions of videos to the sections? I've worked very hard on these and they offer something the others don't.

Per WP:EL, you need at least 10 valid edits to the wiki before posting external links. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 00:39, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I understand this, but the only additions I have to make are my videos. Which are valid and helpful. Other videos of mine have been posted on this site before and now I'm just doing it myself rather than asking others to do it for me. I'm positive if my name were Totalbiscuit this would not be an issue.Mojomaker (talk) 00:44, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
You'll be fine now, the problem is we have been flooded with people adding YouTube videos and there really isn't time to go through each one to assess its quality so we needed some policy to moderate it. Since you seem to be staying with Wowpedia and not just a drive-by spammer it will be all right to go ahead and post your videos. Thanks for your understanding. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 00:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the understanding. I'll continue to post the best information I can!Mojomaker (talk) 00:52, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

help please

hi whats up? i was wondering if there was any active wowpedia people...

What do you need? --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 13:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Freedom of information on reasons for policies / DNP policy in specific

Hi, found you via Special:Listusers/sysop, I am new here but not new to wikis :)

I would be interested in hearing any feedback admins have to this: Wowpedia_talk:DNP_policy#Reasons_for_policies.3F (figured it's probably not a page that is read/used much so I'm messaging you all, I couldn't find a noticeboard page though I found what looks like a rather out-of-date list of admins hehe) --Kittymew (talk) 14:39, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Patch template

Hey Pcj. I have a question regarding the WoW Patch templates. It appears that Cata patches use this Cataclysm before the patch number etc, which is quite long while they could use Icon Cataclysm 18x18.gif which is much shorter and more in-style of previous expansions' patches which used shorter inlines before them - TBC and WotLK.:) Encaitar (talk) 18:59, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Hey, just wanted to get your opinion on Talk:Archbishop Benedictus about whether or not the "he staged a coup" note from patch 1.4.1 should be considered lore or not. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 20:38, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Blizzard Armory links to deleted pages on Wowpedia

Hi, I've been using the Blizzard Armory to read up on items and for some things (maybe all), it has a link to Wowpedia (nice!). However, when I clicked on the Wowpedia link for "Design: Delicate Chimera's Eye", it gave me a page that said it had been deleted moved (by you?) with this comment "Mass deletion of pages added by Cannibaleyez".

I don't know why the page was deleted, but is there any intent to make sure that links from Blizzard go to actual pages (even if they're just stubs)?

Tulonsae (talk) 11:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Page was deleted, cause Cannibaleyez created a bunch of pages with things like "Design: Delicate Chimera's Eye" and that's it... just a repeat of what the article name was. Snake.gifSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3.gifFor Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 05:12, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Possible vandalism.

Hello PCJ. User FunOnABun recently changed all the Elemental Lords articles, swapping their images and I believe their character NPCbox shouldn't be using those certian images since they are outdated and not very accurate. Therazane was already reverted by someone but Al'akir and Ragnaros are using the artwork from Thammer and not so beautiful art from Shadows and Lights in their char box when they were using respectivly - in-game Cata screenshot and TCG artwork. Please decide whether should they be reverted or not. Thanks in advance. IconSmall BloodElf2 Male.gif Encaitar (DiscussionDeeds) 12:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Being new to WoWpedia, making sure not to step on toes.

Hi Pcj, I recently spent a few hours cleaning up/re-organising the Useful Macros page for Death Knights. I was just making sure that I set it up the way you'd envisioned the site.

That specific area was, and still is a mess. I'll be going through it as I level my DK and can test out the various "old macros" and bring them up to their respective sections.

I've decided to make that page (As well as the Warrior one once I start leveling it again) my "home". Kagrannosh (talk) 10:39, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Pcj, there appears to be some weird issue at The fonts for the headers in that sub-section are significantly smaller, and I can't figure out why. Kagrannosh (talk) 13:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Be bold. If someone doesn't like it, they can revert it. :) Also, the tiny subheadings are because of the site's CSS. You didn't do anything wrong. If you want them bigger, use <h1-6> tags instead of "======". <h6> is the one "======" becomes. —EGingellTC Treader of Cenarion Circle 17:54, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Tooltips on another Wiki?

Hi Pcj, I was wondering if you could assist in setting up your Tooltips on another Wiki?

I had some code that was setup on a wikia wiki with someone else's assistance and moving it to a different wiki again SEEMS to be ok, but it doesn't work (I also think it might be a quirk of the Vector skin). The Wiki is the RIFT Wiki and I currently have the .js in my user pages. in vector.js, tooltips.js, TooltipsCore.js & TooltipsItem.js. I do not have ability to grant you admin rights or similar but feel free to edit my User Pages so that it should at least appear right to you. Item pages will be using the Template:Item but I need to rework this a bit to be more cleaner still, additionally I intend to use Template:ilink for use on all the other pages.

Regards, Maygus (talk) 02:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Hey PCJ, the War against Deathwing article is constantly changed to include Malfurion as an Alliance commander, while he actually doesn't take part in the conflict similar to Lady Liadrin, Hamuul Runetotem, Varok Saurfang or even Thrall who are not listed. Could you please visit Talk:War against Deathwing and discuss. I really think he doesn't fit there, as he is more neutral as leader of Cenarion Circle (just like the 4 Horde commanders who simply do not take part in the war eventhough they're in the Horde). Thanks in advance IconSmall BloodElf2 Male.gif Encaitar (DiscussionDeeds) 20:36, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Tooltips on the law-wiki

Hello, Pcj! I have a favour to ask of you to help me with implementation of your tooltips on my wiki. Unfortunately, I am not a big expert in JavaScript, so... I do not really know what to do. if you can help me, write me please to ICQ 312422950 or my page here ( Thanks by a pair of beer bottles guarantee ;)

Pnaggle's test dude

Why did you remove the article? --U7 (talk) 03:00, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

JS Tabs

Hey, I am an admin on a wiki and was looking for an extension for tabbed content, but they all.. well they stink. I did, however, take notice of the tabs you guys use on the portal pages ( Template:Wwp ) and was wondering if you could point me to the .js and such to get those to work? I've managed to piece together the .css needed for them, and have some of the .js from MediaWiki:Common.js regarding tab switching and what I assume is also part of it called createPageInCategory() as it also makes calls to ptabs. Any help would be appreciated, as those are the best implementation of tabs I have seen. Transclusion as well as direct linking = win. --Zitek (talk) 03:59, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Tabs are currently pretty much the most complex thing JS-wise on the wiki. What you need depends on how much of Wowpedia's functionality you want. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 04:06, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I guess whatever is needed. I've been working for the past two weeks creating a dark vector skin which oddly enough I see ya'll have done yourselves (though I've opted for a red base instead of grey/yellow due to the theme of the wiki content). The main issue I am running into with the tabs is the creation and display tag not working when the tabs are clicked. That is, it is not creating the divs with the content loaded into them nor does clicking the tabs do anything but take you directly to the portals themselves. The #ifeq for ptab1-5 (not the 7 used for your portals) at the bottom of the tab template tries to load the portals as templates, and not transclusions. Appending : before them just creats loops.--Zitek (talk) 04:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
You're probably missing the code calling it in the jQuery document.ready function. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 04:48, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
Any place you could point me so I can peruse the .js used?--Zitek (talk) 05:26, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
And I got it working. Pointing me at jQuery got me to start testing out other functions, and it turns out jQuery wasn't loading at all for custom JS. A quick change to call jquery.js and it started working immediately. Thanks!--Zitek (talk) 10:37, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I need some help

Recently i've created Template:Eternity's End (code was used from Template:Scourge of Lordaeron). I add it to the page Eternity's End, but it adds Category:Warcraft III:RoC night elf campaign chapters though the code says not to do that. Can you help me to do something with that (again sry for possibly bad english)? --Askarmuk (talk) 16:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Apostrophes are handled a bit weird in #ifeq code. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 16:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! --Askarmuk (talk) 16:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Removed gems

Why are these getting turned into redirects? Shouldn't they be kept and marked with removedfromgame tags instead? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:38, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Gems which were already cut weren't removed, they were changed into the new versions. {{Removedfromgame}} is more for stuff that may still exist on characters but just no longer drops. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 21:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
So should we delete the pages for the ZG bijous then? Because they were removed entirely in 4.0.3a. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:44, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
There's nothing which replaces it, so there's no need to outright delete them as part of the historical record. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 21:46, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
And no need to keep a historical record of the removed gems? -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:16, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
We could add a note on the pages of the gems that replace them, I suppose. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 22:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Since they gems that replaced them weren't new gems, I'd rather keep a removedfromgame page. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 22:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Actually... although they no longer have a purpose... the ZG bijous and tokens were never removed entirely, they just can't be obtained. I still have them floating around in the mail. Snake.gifSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3.gifFor Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 23:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
It was inconsistent, to be sure, but a lot of people reported having them removed from their inventory in 4.0.3a. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 23:17, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

WoWwiki attribution

Why was Template:WoWWiki credit deleted?

I note that Template:Wowpedia_credit is in use, even if on fewer than 50 pages. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 23:42, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Forum:Attribution of content from Wowpedia on WoWWiki. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 23:45, 1 April 2011 (UTC)


I'm from and we are currently working to implement your nice popup script, with good success so far. But I have one change, I wanted to propose to you. Why do you restrict your script to div-tags only? If you don't restrict it to divs-only, you can do things like the Fruit Roll Recipe popup.
And what do the variable tfb mean? We were discussing about the name a lot, but we haven't figured it out yet :) --EoD (talk) 01:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Restricting to a particular tag is a CPU/memory optimization (if you're doing any coding in jQuery at all, please read ). If you don't restrict it, the JavaScript parser has to search through all elements for the particular class (for browsers that don't support that feature of HTML5). I don't see anything on your demo page that couldn't be done with DIVs. It's been forever since I named the variable, but if I recall correctly it means "tooltip, floating box" or something like that (I didn't expect people trying to read between the lines). --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 01:29, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks to your help yesterday, I found out what caused the problem with my DIVs not being displayed correctly. They have been displayed fine on Firefox, but neither on Chrome nor on IE. I had to change the position value in order to align the parent div horizontal not vertical. Is this fix only required because of my faulty usage of this popup? We don't usena "stealth" info box on our pages which is displayed on the popup, we just copy parts of the content of the visible wiki pages and put them in the popup. --EoD (talk) 18:21, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Not sure why you had to do that since I didn't see the faulty behavior before-hand. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 18:25, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
If you use something like firebug or the chrome debugger, you can see how the layout of the div is aligned, by hovering with the mouse over the div tag. Without that change, it's vertically aligned. And if you add "z-index: 10" to style, you also fix the problem that the popup is behind the edit/view buttons at the top :) --EoD (talk) 19:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh, you probably didn't copy over the CSS styling that is applied by the class. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 19:21, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, you were right. I forgot to copy the right css class which contained the z-index value. Thanks again! I also fixed a y alignment problem with large popups which were outside of the browser window (only the first half of this diff of course). Feel free to copy it! --EoD (talk) 19:51, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Ajax RecentChanges

Hey, I've been fiddling with some of the AjaxRC script you wrote on Wikia, and I have a question: Rappy added > * to the end of the url query to fix "unneeded/wanted margins on reload" - what does the server do with > *? Monchoman45 (talk) 01:47, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Read the jQuery docs. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 01:51, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

My Website

I have a webiste Fictional Races Wiki ( and I am wondering how I change the background color to something more exciting instead of white. Please help me. Hallowseve15 (talk) 22:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Really? I'm not Wikia support. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 22:52, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Darn it! Hallowseve15 (talk) 23:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Go here and ask. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 23:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Would like to interview you

Hi Pcj,

I’m continuing my research (on WoWWiki and WoWPedia) this summer and hope to interview several of the core contributors about their experiences. Would you be available for an interview at some point this summer?

I also wanted to share an article of mine about WoWWiki that was recently published; you can find it linked to from my user page (happy to send you pdf, if you like). For the most part it talks about the writing processes of the community and how members work well together because of shared attitudes and beliefs about writing on a wiki. If you have any questions or feedback, I’d love to hear it.

Thanks for considering this. If you're interested in participating, you can contact me here via email <tinyurl [dot] com/5ug7gqq>. Dakhma (talk) 15:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Local copies of removed sources

When is it okay to copy a source verbatim from Blizzard? We have things like History of Warcraft sections and in-game quotes. WrathOfDeathfrost's Bestiary articles were okay per Coobra's talk page, but Ashbear160's "Troll Compendium" and "Encyclopedia - Naga" ‎were not per your deletions. Are our standards codified completely on Wowpedia:Copyright policy?--SWM2448 19:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Blizzard's license permits use of things from their website and games. Re-publication of books and printed material is not OK. We should try avoiding duplication of the website as much as possible, though some use of its content is fine. There is a bit of a grey area but I feel copying and pasting whole articles is stretching it. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 19:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I want to use common sense, but that never works. How would you define a "whole article" in regards to too much?--SWM2448 19:19, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Actually i didn't make the troll compendium, i just removed a extra = i found in the middle, however my interpretation of that blizzard would allow is the pages that are not on the official website anymore, and can only be found by using the wayback machine.
I also suggest for a dmin to go ask on wow story forums, maybe blizzard would give a concrete answer, and it doesn't hurt to ask.--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Making Wowpedia articles which are only copy and pastes from Blizzard content is not necessary and pushing fair use. Incorporating Blizzard content into an original Wowpedia article is usually fine. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 19:34, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
But we kinda need those sources, that's why they were listed as source-articles, because that information has been deleted by blizzard, and sourcing to nowhere is kinda of a non-source, someone should ask blizzard anyway.
Currently i have these 5 sources that are dead links that i would like to transcribe.
Can i do any of them?--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:39, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Some still exist on the European site, like and --SWM2448 19:43, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Why exactly do we need to keep those sources? Nothing we have cites them, as far as I can tell. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 19:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
The second link is dead.
PCJ, when i was making the Old Gods' forces article, one of the things i need to do was finding sources, those five i took from other articles to use as sources, i did it rather blindly because those links where dead, so i had no way to confirm the information given as a source, so besides the article that i made there are others that do indeed use these sources.--Ashbear160 (talk) 19:51, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Well the naga article seems to work the same, so i'll replace that link on my article(i won't do for other articles unless i find them) can't be said of the other four links(at least from what i tried), so how is it?, if it's dead can we transcribe?--Ashbear160 (talk) 20:05, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
It is my opinion that linking to the Wayback Machine's archived version of the article on a case-by-case basis would be easier to maintain and shows context better. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 20:08, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Transcribing all that was lost in the transition to the new site would be a massive undertaking that would require carefully planned organization and context (I'm looking at you, Ashbear's proposed page names), mirroring the way Blizzard set it up.--SWM2448 20:11, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Not everything, just what we need, and names can be easily changed.--Ashbear160 (talk) 21:03, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
What do you mean by "we" and "need"? Why pick and choose? A better plan is needed.--SWM2448 21:23, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
By we need i mean links that we use as source like the Ulduar Bosstiary, anyway let's talk in this forums it's more convenient--Ashbear160 (talk) 22:03, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Adding Tool-tips to my wiki

Hello Pcj

I am a Bureaucrat on the Ikariam wiki, and I would like to implement 2 of your tool-tip functions on my wiki and have no idea what portions of the MediaWiki:Common.js file i need to use, I have in the past tried to copy several sections and reloaded the browser to have the changes take effect and nothing ever worked. The 2 tool-tip functions I would like to have are:

  1. The {{Quicktooltip}} option, for a better Tool-tip display than the normal <span title="blah blah blah"> text </span> option.
  2. The {{Ajaxsub}} option, because I hate the wikia <tabview> ... </tabview> display.

I can make you an admin, in order to implement whatever changes you need on the wiki.


-- (M o r p hJames E. Rooks, Jr. aka: Morph
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Tabs aren't implemented with Ajaxsub, that may be your problem. I'm not sure I want the hassle of working on a Wikia wiki at the moment - I'll think about it. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 15:45, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I can request the Tabview function be turned off if that would make the Ajaxsub template work - but I was never able to get any part such as the Quicktooltip to work either. I understand your reluctance to work on a Wikia wiki from what I gleamed on some of the talk pages on the former WoWWiki pages. If you decide to take it on, just let me know. -- (M o r p hJames E. Rooks, Jr. aka: Morph
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If the Ajaxsub is the more difficult of the two - maybe you can help me get the Quicktooltips working by just posting on my talk page the main / basic information that I need for my MediaWiki:Wikia.js / MediaWiki:Wikia.css files to get that one template working. -- (M o r p hJames E. Rooks, Jr. aka: Morph
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How can I

How can I create a gallery? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Justakija (talk · contr).

Template trouble

I've noticed that many users are using either the {{User ClassCombo|Night Elf|Hunter}} or/and {{User ClassCombo|Blood Elf|Hunter}} templates. However, many of them are also typing "elf" instead of "Elf" which the template cannot process. Can it be fixed so that both versions are "accepted"? WrathOfDeathfrost (talk) 15:39, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Erm, according to the code it should already do that, can you provide an example? --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 15:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
The problem (according to how the template is coded) is the space between Blood/Night and Elf, the switch only accepts "bloodelf" or "nightelf" not "blood elf" or "night elf". -- (M o r p hJames E. Rooks, Jr. aka: Morph
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Incorrect, please provide an example. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 16:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
{{lc:{{#switch:{{lc:{{{1|Orc}}} }}
     |bloodelf=blood elf  <!-- this switch does not allow for a space -->
     |nightelf=night elf  <!-- this switch does not allow for a space -->
     }} <!-- End of the switch -->
}} <!-- end of the lc: -->
|<span style="color: #{{#switch:{{lc:{{{2|Hunter}}} }}
     |death knight
     |{{#switch:{{lc:{{{1|Orc}}} }}
          |blood elf=600000  <!-- this switch does allows the space -->
          }} <!-- End of the #switch:{{lc:{{{1|Orc}}} -->
     }} <!-- End of the #switch:{{lc:{{{2|Hunter}}} }} -->

-- (M o r p hJames E. Rooks, Jr. aka: Morph
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Wrong, the space is handled by the default parameter with every other race. Please provide an example. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 16:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
...Hmm? Odd, it's working now. When I earlier saw templates using "elf" instead of Elf" on other users' userpages, as well as my own when I tested it in a preview, it didn't work. Guess calling upon the power of admins can evocate miracles. However, I can still assure you that there indeed was a problem for a while (despite how it clearly has disappeared now), else I wouldn't have bothered making this topic. Thanks to the both of you for taking the time to look into it! WrathOfDeathfrost (talk) 23:55, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

About Felhound and Fel stalker


I understand that you seem to be more connected to technical aspects of the website than its contents, but I could not find the staff last, and you're the only administrator who has left a message in my profile.
There are these two pages: Felhound and Fel stalker, if you notice, they contain repeated information. I suggest a merge. This was a unit that originally appeared in WarCraft III: Reign of Chaos, and it was named Felhound. In The Frozen Throne, its name was altered to Fel Stalker. I've been documenting its appearances on Reign of Chaos, I'd appreciate if all the information was kept.

Thank you in advance, and my apologies if you are not the person to bother about these things.

--Wc3sRui (talk) 22:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

P.S. -- Be careful: there are two Fel Stalker pages, one with a small 's' (Fel stalker), which is the one in conflict with Felhound, and there's Fel Stalker, which is actually a World of Warcraft mob.

Your opinion is desired

Your opinion is desired on this topic.

Thank you.

IconSmall Hamuul.gif Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 07:22, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi from Curse!

Hey Pcj, this is Taylor from Curse.

I was hoping to get in touch with you guys, we will be making a few disclaimer changes and hiring new wiki managers soon and would like to get your guys' input on it. I was also curious who I should contact for these kind of changes to let them know what is happening and get their thoughts on it? Looking to act as your liaison, so let me know. (: --Bumbletalk 17:35, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is desired

Forum:Proposed changes for Wowpedia's main page

IconSmall Hamuul.gif Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 13:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Also for the deletion vote in progress at Category talk:Bind on Equip socketable gems -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 00:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Reques for signature coding advice

Could i ask for advice on how to get the (C) that shows how many posts have been edited by myself as this is something i would like to include in my signature if for no other reason than it means i can be lazy when seeing how much ive done :p

Thanks in advance Deludo (talk) 16:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Tried the code you gave but im guessing ive made some screw up somewhere along the lines as my signatures now showing as

Deludo {{SUBST:{C}}}({{SUBST:Special:Editcount/Deludo}})

Any ideas/obvious screwups on my part/Evidence of Gnomish Engineering affecting it would be greatly received

Got it working, many thanks have a virtual beer on me Deludo(C285 Peasents employed to do the work for me so far) 17:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Porting your tooltips

We are looking to implement your tooltips on the Star Wars: The Old Republic Wiki and would greatly appreciate your assistance. I can get a Curse admin to give you temporary admin privileges over there or you can use the test wiki I've set up with a few templates and pages. Thanks in advance! --IconSmall Wildkin.gif Alianin T C 17:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

It'd probably be easier to set up on the real thing, but it's up to you. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 23:56, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
We can do that. I'm assuming the new Pcj user is you? --IconSmall Wildkin.gif Alianin T C 02:55, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Yeap. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 02:56, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Ok, you should have admin access now. --IconSmall Wildkin.gif Alianin T C 14:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Cool, what template(s) did you want to use to implement this? Do you have a test page set up already? --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 14:35, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
I have a test page up with the templates linked that we want to use for now. --IconSmall Wildkin.gif Alianin T C 22:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Wiki Navigation Bar Question

Our guild runs a wiki for our website and just recently the navigation bar started showing up at the bottom of text on each page, no longer remaining in the upper left as it once did. Do you know the code to add to the server to force the navigation panel to remain at the top of the page, or even scroll with the page, remaining on the screen? I have been unable to locate a MediaWiki article that definitively answers this. My thanks in advance. Ariule (talk) 03:43, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

...Did you change something or did it just start doing that? --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 03:44, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
No changes to MediaWiki or SQL or XAMPP for months. It started sliding after the articles after the most recent FireFox updates, thus I assume it must be a parsing thing. I thought I read, a really long time ago when I was setting it up, there was a line of code to force it to remain on the screen, floating as it were, or to lock it into a position, such as the upper left, under the logo, as it had always been. Ariule (talk) 03:48, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Try another browser and if that fixes it, the problem is with Firefox, if it doesn't it's a problem with whatever you did to make it position:fixed. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 03:50, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Well shoot, try the obvious =] Sure enough in IE it works. Facta Non Verba. The most recent FireFox must be parsing the code slightly differently. More research to locate code to lock it in then. My thanks. Ariule (talk) 03:54, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Edits to Mongoose Page

I wonder if I could request feedback on my changes to  [Enchant Weapon - Mongoose]. I wrote a change log on the talk page as well. The main point is the question about how to refer to the proc effects of weapon enchants. The issues being that Wowpedia doesn't seem to have any kind of internal mechanism for referring to spells that don't have a wiki page; and, since I don't think that anyone wants to make a whole wiki page just so the tooltip works when it is sufficient to describe it in the enchant page. There's a precedent for the latter (inclusion of proc/effect buff in the same page as the source), as I mentioned in the talk page, in the ability infobox and a couple others that match it. Sometimes the text in the effect's buff isn't very descriptive, and I personally find the way I clarified its effect (with the texttip template) pretty aesthetically pleasing.

Secondary points would be the last two bullets.

Also, overall the final sentence which sort of says how I'm not sure what the standard way of bringing up this kind of question is.

Thanks! - Pelf (talk) 05:34, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Followup question posted to my wall RE: your post. PelfTalk To PelfWhat Pelf Has Done 07:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thought on Race templates

The shape of Template:Humans and Template:Orcs are making troubles.

Please voice your opinion here.


IconSmall Hamuul.gif Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 08:56, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

NPC article titles : RECALL


Your opinion is required here, on a policy concerning NPC article titles.

Thanks you.

IconSmall Hamuul.gif Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 18:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


RFA is ongoing for Dark T Zeratul.

Please voice your opinion

IconSmall Hamuul.gif Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 07:55, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Question for Pcj

Hello PCJ I am working a new wiki site. I was wondering if I could talk to you by email or by Skype (chat) about it and hopefully hire you to take care of the tooltips in the site.

here's my email: -deleted email.

Please just send me an email so i can talk to you more about it. I apologize If I sound too discreet.

Thank you very much and I hope you give me a reply.

DyingSun (talk)

I've fallen and I can't get up.

I appear to be locked out of my previous account "Ariule" and needed to create this temp account to leave a post someplace as everyone has most wisely hidden email addresses against bots. Strangely, the resend login information button reports that there was no email address associated with that account (doubtful at best). Granted, I have not been logged in for sometime and was wondering if accounts have been auto time locked or something. Please advise....

Ariule Temp (talk) 01:13, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 01:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
My thanks. Most pleased to back among the living. - Ariule (talk) 01:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Missing stats on tooltip updates

Template talk:Itemtip#Stats missing on Wowhead tooltip updates —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gourra (talk · contr).

AjacRC & Collapsible Recent Changes

I don't think you still maintain the Wikia version of this script, and don't know if you have anything to do with it, but your user page said you like a challenge ;) If anything I thought the author of the script would be in the best position to answer a question.

Wikia use collapsible sections on their Recent Changes - the blue arrows seen here (I would wikilink it, but the abuseflter stops me :/) - to collapsed multiple edits of a single page for easier browsing of the page. However, when the script refreshes the page the opened sections revert to their closed state. Is there anyway to add a function to remember what parts were uncollapsed? Arweinydd (talk) 01:20, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

No, but you should be able to disable enhanced recent changes. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 01:29, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Help With Tooltips

Hi there, I was wondering if you could help me out with porting your tooltip design to my wiki. I'm part of an indie game studio at and want to use some tooltips for our abilities and more. I have what I believe are the correct lines in my Common.js and Common.css in addition to very similar template pages (Ability, Abilitytip, etc.), but the darn tooltips don't seem to want to work. The popup occurs, but the tooltip only says "Error This target either has no tooltip or was not intended to have one." If you have some time to help me, please reach out to me at [email protected] or reply here. Thanks a million! --Lucin (talk) 03:31, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in responding, it seems I didn't receive an e-mail notification when you posted. Based on what the tooltip is saying it sounds like you need to wrap the relevant tooltip content in an appropriate DIV or SPAN. Hope that helps. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 21:26, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Working tooltips code for ACCWiki

Hi Pcj

I've attempted to get your tooltips code working on the Asheron's Call wiki at ac. wikkii. net, but they won't appear at all - not even an error message.

I followed the method how you helped Stars Wars Old Republic wiki with their tooltips:

  1. Installed a copy of the tooltips code that is used at swtor. gamepedia .com
  2. Add the code for the common.cs also
  3. Defined class tooltip content class for our item template
  4. Added the ajaxttlink class to our Itemlink template

I wondered if you could maybe take a quick look and see where I went wong please? I would be eternally grateful. thanks Arkalor (talk) 12:49, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

German WoWWiki tooltip integration

Hello Pcj, I am currently the only active administrator(which I've gotten to be just recently) on the german WoWWiki and I've been meaning to step up the game in our wiki. I wanted to ask you, if you would be so kind as to explain to me or even help me to integrate the codes necessary for the classic item/achievement/quest tooltips on our wiki. Note: I have very little experience in the fields of javascript and css, but I am happy to help any way I can. Any answer would be appreciated! Crypoc (talk) 14:28, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't help with Wikia wikis. Please consult Wikia support. --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 14:34, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

UO Guide tooltip integration

Hello Pcj,

My name is Broomy and I'm an Administrator over at, It's a Wiki for Ultima Online that has been around for about 10 years and I would love to speak to you about integrating your tooltip technology to our site. Our infobox template we use on item pages simulates what the items popup in the game looks like and i would like that to appear in a tooltip. Also if the page the link your hovering over dosent have a infobox item template on the page then just display nothing.

Here is a link to a page with the infobox i want to apear in the tooltip on the right side.


and here is the how the template is used:

{{Infobox item
| name=Tiger Pelt Chest
| image=Tiger_Pelt_Chest.png
| weight=6
| physicalresist=3
| fireresist=4
| coldresist=3
| poisonresist=3
| energyresist=3
| strengthrequirement=30
| mindurability=36
| maxdurability=48

Is that Possible with just installing and configuring your scripts and CSS to work on our site? or would we need to edit the existing interwiki links as well to call a new tooltip template?

You can reach me on ICQ 6334356 or over on you can post in the forum or talk to me on my user page BroomyBroom or i will just keep checking back here for a reply :)

Thankyou for you time :) -Broomy83 (talk) 04:41, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

That should be fine for the tooltip, you'll just need the JS/CSS and use a template like {{item}} to link to it. (Or bug User:Foxlit for his Help:DefaultLinks extension). --PcjWowpedia admin (TDrop me a line!C146,078 contributions and counting) 21:49, 18 October 2016 (UTC)