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Everything's said in the title. Here we list the things that will be removed in Battle for Azeroth that we need to properly archive before their removal.

For removed or overhauled zones and battlegrounds (Ashran, Strand, Arathi), that means going over every NPC, mob and quests in there. For removed questlines (Mage Tower, First Aid), that means going over every quest. It means also going over every trainer and vendors related to First Aid. All of this is of course a huge amount of work to do... so let's try our best.

List

Crossed content is already gone.

Archiving more-or-less complete

  • It seems the goblin slums in Orgrimmar will be replaced by an embassy. Need to take screenshots and validate everything.
  • The Wollerton Stead and the building housing Celestine of the Harvest in Stormwind City will suffer the same fate.
  • The destroyed Silithus got updated between patch 7.3.0 and 7.3.5.
  • Thunder Totem and the uninstanced Nighthold got populated with more allied races NPCs.
  • The level 100 boost introduction scenarios will probably be removed, but they should be covered pretty well (see Sword of Dawn and Tempest's Roar).
  • Uther's Tomb is getting visually upgraded, along with Uther himself maybe. Grab a couple more screenshots of the current design.
  • A minor one, but it seems the Echo Isles will be updated to add a ship toward Zandalar. Maybe take a few screenshots of the area before the new port is added.
  • Teldrassil is gonna burn, and the Tirisfal Glades are getting destroyed. Zidormi will be here in Darkshore and Tirisfal to provide high-level players a jump to the past, but the boats and zeppelins are getting removed from them, presumably due to phasing issues.
  • All Artifact appearances
  • The Artifact interface for each artifact.
  • The Class Hall rare missions leading to dungeon and raid quests.
  • Arathi Highlands is getting revamped but Zidormi is here to let us switch at will.
  • Major interface rework, mainly the Interface Bar. Most of the Legion interfaces (and possibly previous expansions of some interfaces) have been updated/added. Some interfaces are either badly written/need some work such as Guild list.
  • Artifact Power will presumably be going away as well, so we should make sure we've got all the AP items done.
  • All artifact traits are now logged on the wiki.
  • Strand of the Ancients is removed.

To archive

  • The Ruins of Lordaeron are gonna be graphically overhauled.
  • The Mage Tower scenarios will be gone.
  • [The Chosen] title
  • First Aid is removed. Need to do a pass over all the First Aid quests and every First-Aid related article (including Category:First Aid trainers) in order to complete them.
  • Ashran is temporarily retired. Since many achievements are going Legacy, it probably means that when the battleground is back, it'll have been overhauled with new NPCs, mobs, etc.
  • Stormwind City and Orgrimmar are getting a massive amount of refugees. In Orgrimmar they can be found in the city ramparts, on the skyway. In Stormwind City, in the harbor, canals and up to Olivia's Pond.
  • Our coverage of the current PvP system in Legion is essentially non-existent.
  • Legion Brawler's Guild achievements will be replaced with BfA achievements.
  • Order Advancements that auto-complete world quests (i.e. Frost Wyrm) were removed. The articles can possibly still be done even though 8.0 is here, maybe with wowhead's help?

Discussion

Mage Tower

The Mage Tower trials are definitely getting removed; they've said the Challenge artifact appearances as well as the Mythic 15 color will be unavailable as well (but all the others will remain). -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 10:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Mage Tower unavailable?! I need to do that quick. Difficult though. — Surafbrov T / P / C 10:20, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
As I understood it, some of the drastic changes in BfA would not take place before reaching max level, or perhaps rather 110. Teldrassil being one such example. We had confirmation on pre-torn Silithus being reachable through time magic aswell as I recall. Meaning that a thorough checkup of those zones wouldn't really be high priority. Might still be a good idea because you never know with Blizzard, but that was the general idea right? The mage tower should still be a lot easier now, as 925 gear will be readily available with Antorus raid finder soon. PeterWind (talk) 10:22, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Already ilvl 935, and still get one shot with some abilities. It's all about mobility. — Surafbrov T / P / C 11:27, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Well yeah still gotta dodge, but I mean the dps parts are faster at least! I've only cleared the brothers. If you're on that one, I can share a trick that helped me a lot. Got no clue about how the others work. PeterWind (talk) 11:58, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
We need to record the lore behind the mage tower scenarios ASAP. Some of them is interesting, like how Skovald's daughter is saved from the fel. Xporc (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
Fortunately literally all challenge scenarios are on youtube & Twitch, done by multiple players. I've personally completed Skovald and Agatha. Basically you just beat some sense into Sigryn and then she goes "hmm, you're right, maybe I shouldn't do that." Then she purges herself from the fel. I plan to get all 36 challenge weapons eventually, so if they aren't archived in detail by then I'll do it. -- MyMindWontQuiet 19:20, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

It occurs to me that the pre-Mage Tower questlines (the ones that used to unlock the bonus traits on your artifact) may be removed as well. We should make sure those are all documented. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

What sort of quests are we talking about here? do you have an example? Xporc (talk) 20:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
The quests that originally unlocked the Empowered traits, and for which the Mage Tower quessts are the conclusions. For example, N [110] Legion Threat: Dalaran Infiltration. It does appear that these are all thoroughly documented, though. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 20:08, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Oh, good. What a headache ... Xporc (talk) 13:22, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Artifacts

Speaking of which, there are still a lot of artifact pages that are missing their images, and after the Challenge ones get removed I don't know if they'll still be visible in-game. It would be awesome if someone could help get screenshots of the missing ones so I don't have to level up an alt of every class myself. Currently the druid, hunter, warlock, and paladin artifacts are missing most or all of their images. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 22:07, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

I can take care of most of the hunter ones, I don't have access to all of them though. Snake.gifSssssssssssssssssssssssss Coobra sig3.gifFor Pony! (Sssss/Slithered) 22:33, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Fortunately only the Hidden appearances require you to actually have it unlocked, so at the very least we can get all the appearances that will be going away. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 23:02, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
They'll remove the ability for new players to get it, but existing players will still have access to the skins they unlocked. -- MyMindWontQuiet 19:20, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
Right, but it's easier to get those screenshots now when everyone can see them than waiting until later and depending on those who unlocked them. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 20:20, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
It is yeah, just thought I'd clear that up so we don't worry. -- MyMindWontQuiet 20:30, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

More towards the back-burner, but as far as I know the majority of artifact traits are red links on Wowpedia. (Unless it's been dealt with since the last time I checked, in which case you can ignore this.) -- Alayea (talk / contrib) 00:07, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Updated zones - 7.3.5

The farms north of Stormwind will be replaced already in 7.3.5: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/7226-Patch-7-3-5-PTR-Build-25600 Xporc (talk) 22:35, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

The Goblin slums will also be replaced, and it seems Silithus will get a facelift. Need to upload pictures of current post-Antorus Silithus to record it. Xporc (talk) 09:15, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I went and checked both the farm and the slum areas. Neither are replaced but both modified. So some buildings will be removed but the sub-zones themselves remain. For now at least. PeterWind (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

https://imgur.com/a/LN9NS Apparently Thunder Totem and the Nighthold will be updated as well. We need to make sure everything in these two places is archived properly before the patch. Xporc (talk) 11:16, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Mordecay was kind enough to add the mobs that populated the Nighthold before being reconverted into the playable Nightborne capital, but does anyone remember if there were changes between old and current Thunder Totem? Xporc (talk) 09:13, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Between what patches? I can get on to check since I know that area rather well... spending too much time there. — Surafbrov T / P / C 09:14, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Between vanilla Legion and 7.3.5, which introduced several "allied races" features to Thunder Totem, like pandaren monk trainers. Xporc (talk) 09:28, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Other than Highmountain Trainees and Cheng Lish, I don't think anything else was changed/added. I'm not sure if something may have been removed. Good news though, the Waterwise family is still there safe and sound. — Surafbrov T / P / C 09:51, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
The hostile mobs should be still in the Nighthold subzone, checked post 735, on a character who hasn't started the Suramar questline and hasn't unlocked allied races for the account. Mordecay (talk) 10:11, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Boost

The 100 boost was replaced with the 110 boost that now starts you in front of the Citadel where the Council is in Dalaran already with the following information here. — Surafbrov T / P / C 09:13, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Wew, if so much Broken Isles content is already accomplished with the new level boost, it means the only way to see these quests will now be to start a new alt from level 1. The pain. Xporc (talk) 09:28, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
So YouTube (ally) is a good source to look at the level 100 boost scenario. Also check Slack when you get the chance. — Surafbrov T / P / C 09:35, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Making a lvl 100 trial character, will still start you in the Broken Shore scenario. A trick for noticing new NPCs is having an addon, that tells the ID of npcs. I know the Wowhead looter does this, could be others as well. Many NPCs added in 7.3.5 are in the 127-131k range of IDs. This isn't a 100% rule, but it's something to keep in mind. This doesn't help in regards of removed stuff of course, only to see what's new. PeterWind (talk) 13:55, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Updated zones - 8.0

With regards to Arathi, I suspect there will be a bronze dragon NPC to roll back the zone changes. I can't confirm this, though, since even the ones that seem to have been datamined for Tirisfal and Teldrassil aren't actually in-game yet. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 08:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, this is possible. Xporc (talk) 08:18, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm fairly certain our Arathi coverage is complete, though, at least. Definitely good to double-check, obviously, but it's definitely not in an obviously sorry state like our Ashran pages. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 08:22, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Ashran is a complete mess. — Surafbrov T / P / C 17:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Did a lot of zone screenshot updates of images in Arathi. Some I tried to keep the same perspective to what the original was File:Arathi Highlands.jpg but with my settings to the the farthest I can go, etc. Some I did a new perspective because the last screenshot was most likely taken in 2006 before Cataclysm and flying. (Example) — Surafbrov T / P / C 00:40, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Did a lot more zone screenshot updates for Arathi; added some new (example, the cave entrances for Alliance and Horde for Arathi Basin) as well as some for the Forbidding Sea. I also went to Uther's Tomb and retook the screenshots there. Also, did anyone notice (for the Horde) that the text was changed? (File:Uther burial message.jpg)
All I did for Arathi Highlands were the zone image updates; I did nothing that included NPCs, mobs, objects, quests, etc.
Did screenshot updates for the Zeppelins in Tirisfal Glades. — Surafbrov T / P / C 05:10, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Based. If today the RC page is calm I'll join up with the effort. Xporc (talk) 09:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't really worry too much about archiving things that are only getting minor additions, like Stormwind and Orgrimmar pre-refugees, or Echo Isles without the docks. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 19:27, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Considering these areas are being changed forever, even for minor additions, I think that's at least worth trying a little :( Xporc (talk) 19:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
Rather focus on these things and get them done because we not be able to get the chance we have now. Minor or Major, still worth doing. — Surafbrov T / P / C 00:51, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Ashran

As for Ashran, and updating and all: I am able to go into Ashran alone. I'll do what I can do get everything for the Horde side and I'll attempt the Alliance side but I don't play Alliance. — Surafbrov T / P / C 16:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

The only difference between being alone and in a group is that: being alone, not much on the other side can be done such as it'll take forever to spawn a new captain; or do anything like the big guys (Fangraal) — Surafbrov T / P / C 17:19, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for your efforts, this is really great. It's okay, we don't have to cover everything, I guess wowhead can help fill the last gaps we'll be missing once this is over. Xporc (talk) 23:09, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Missions

Is it the special reward & treasure categories that grant items which start dungeon quests, yeah? Mordecay (talk) 16:48, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

I assume so, yea. Also I expect the ones that reward those good amounts of gold will be removed too like they did to the Garrison ones once Legion released. Also these here for an example.Surafbrov T / P / C 17:12, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Ok got them. Half of them are finished, will finish the remaining ones later. Also, didn't the garrison ones had only their rewards changed? They should still be in the game, I think. Mordecay (talk) 17:22, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
I believe so, yea. — Surafbrov T / P / C 17:53, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
Nice, thanks. Xporc (talk) 23:09, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Pages done. Someone go through Category:Treasure missions and Category:Special Reward missions, and do the item pages. Mordecay (talk) 11:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Nice! Also, a nice wowhead user compiled a list so we can check if we got everything. Xporc (talk) 07:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Mythic+15 Artifact Appearance

This just in, Blizzard has announced that the Mythic+15 artifact appearance will not be going away after all. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20764356714 MaverickHunter40245 (talk) 22:18, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

One less thing to worry about then. Thanks! Xporc (talk) 08:05, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Well so much for saving one appearance. Except the Mage Tower one is still an issue as if you don't have the base one at least, the others won't be available. If you get the base one before BfA the others will still be obtainable for you on that Artifact. — Surafbrov T / P / C 17:42, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations everyone

Thanks to everyone who involved themselves in this task. We did miss a few thing, but I think we got the most important ones. Bravo! Xporc (talk) 11:48, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, good job people! PeterWind (talk) 11:59, 18 July 2018 (UTC)