Talk:Alliance resistance

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The term "New Alliance" was only ever used in Warcraft: The Roleplaying Game, which is now non-canon. All other sources refers to Garithos and his army as part of "the Alliance". Should this remain a separate article, or should this information be merged into Alliance and/or Alliance of Lordaeron? Egrem (talk) 18:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

First of all, I'm not quite sure that the main Warcraft RPG book is talking about Garithos' forces. It calls them a "small band of human and elven warriors striking back at the undead" that is whispered about by small pockets of survivors. "New Alliance" is in quotes. It might be them. I dunno. The books seems to take place after the orc campaign, but Garithos was dead by then, I think. This was at a time when it was implied that everything north of Khaz Modan was the plaguelands (and interesting discussion of a road not taken, but that is neither here nor there). Second, while both Garithos and what is and is not in the Alliance is very controversial, they seem separate enough for me.--SWM2448 20:11, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Warcraft: The Roleplaying Game was released the same month as The Frozen Throne and doesn't touch on any of the events that occurred after the Battle of Mount Hyjal (with the peculiar exception of Admiral Proudmoore's attack on Durotar) - no mention of blood elves or Outland, Arthas is not yet the Lich King (and is said to be in Lordaeron), etc.
Either way, I'm not sure why Garithos' forces wouldn't qualify as part of the Alliance. He was a high-ranking member of Lordaeron's military who took charge following the deaths of other authority figures (like Terenas and Uther) and rallied Alliance forces from several nations (including Lordaeron, Khaz Modan and Quel'Thalas). Egrem (talk) 22:03, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Before, after, alternate continuity. Doesn't matter, not canon. As for the separate pages, it may have been legitimate, but it was an isolated splinter. Like the Outland guys.--SWM2448 22:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Actually, the term was used in TFT as well.Ijffdrie (talk) 14:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Source? To my knowledge, TFT only had it as "The Alliance". Kir the Wizard (talk) 13:57, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


Would it be okay to merge this page into the Alliance Remnants page? --Mordecay (talk) 14:08, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

As far as I know, the New Alliance is a splinter group of the Alliance of Lordaeron (just as the Dark Horde is a splinter group from the Old Horde) and the Alliance Remnants is a sub-group of the New Alliance, led by Kael'thas.Gabrirt (talk · contributions) 18:06, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
It seems that Alliance Remnants being a sub-group of the New Alliance is from the non-canonical RPG books, no? --Mordecay (talk) 18:11, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I am not sure that it would be correct to rename Garithos' forces to the name of a team that he was not on. Cycle of Hatred confirms that there was continuity between the Alliance and Garithos' forces in like one comment, but the Alliance page is so bloated that it would be useless to add anything there. There was no splintering into a new faction, but they had their own plot.--SWM2448 20:56, 22 July 2016 (UTC)