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This N [67] Little Embers states that ancients existed on Outlands before the opening of the Dark Portal. How should i put this in the article?--Ashbear160 (talk) 02:02, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Bleh Forget it... didn't see that note...--Ashbear160 (talk) 02:03, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


Hi. Are there any mentions of Ancients existing before the Sundering ? Thanks. ShellShockLive (talk) 00:42, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Oakheart. Xporc (talk) 01:03, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Thus, would you not agree that the fact that Ancients and Cenarius were a thing even before the first druids were created discredits even more the theory that Elothir would be an ancient (the race) druid ? ShellShockLive (talk) 01:11, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
Ancients were in the WotA trilogy, though most of them were telepathic trees that didn't move. Nature magic existed, just not mortal druids.--SWM2448 01:14, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
My point is : if Elothir was there before the Sundering. And Cenarius too. But Malfurion was the first druid, not Elothir. It would make sense if Elothir is a night elf : Malfurion became the first druid, and then others (including Elothir) too. However if Elothir were an Ancient, it wouldn't make sense anymore : Malfurion would not be the first druid. Or Elothir the Ancient would become a druid after the Night Elves did, for whatever random reason (why on earth would Cenarius not have teached Ancients to become druids before he teached the Night Elves ? Like Ancients even need Cenarius or Night Elves to teach them to become druids in the first place ?). See, lots of nonsense or unanswerable questions. ShellShockLive (talk) 01:36, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
I honestly can't say I understood half of that, but Ancients existing before the Sundering doesn't mean that Elothir existed before the Sundering. -- DarkTZeratul (talk) 02:10, 4 December 2016 (UTC)