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Who is Verius? --Didigo10 21:53, 14 June 2006

He's from one of the books for the World of Warcraft Table Top RPG made by White wolf. He's not a big deal, his name just gets mentioned in passin in one of the chapters intro fiction. --BestBrian 22:27, 14 June 2006

His name is more than just a passing remark. The entire short story is about him. He tries to infiltrate the Knights of the Silver Hand, and then how he's discovered, and then slain. That being said everything we know about him is only in that short story, LOL.Baggins 14:02, 27 November 2006 (EST)


This is a compendium of facts i think we should avoid words like "Apparently a variant of the Pit Lord, a Pit Commander can be seen commanding the Burning Legion force at the Outland side of the Dark Portal" --Yammer 12:13, 16 January 2007 (EST)

frostwolves not the only orcs to escape corruption?

with the release of the burning crusade it appears the frostwolves arnt the only clan to avoid demonic corruption. we now have the Mag'har? --Diggory 10:27, 23 January 2007 (EST)

Yes. User:Kirkburn/Sig 11:01, 23 January 2007 (EST)
I don't think the Mag'har are a clan per se, they're just a coalition of orcs from various clans who've managed to escape warlock magic. Not the right talk page for this, really.--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 11:06, 23 January 2007 (EST)

Other Pit Lords

It seems the pit lords listed here are those about whom some information is known. I can think of three pit lords in Outlands (Galvanoth in Blade's Edge Mountains and Mazakradon and Morgroron in Shadowmoon Valley) off the top of my head who aren't listed here...should they be? And if not, what sort of notability requirements are we trying to keep to here? Eorl 05:10, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

Essentially, if they're very important to the plot, they can be listed; the table was created when only a small handful were known. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 08:44, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

Xaxion Drak'eem isn't canon

Regardless of if he may or may not be, canon (be sure to check out our policy on canon please, we remain neutral and don't define things as canon or not). He is still given a background story, and will remain on the list. I have however added a link to his source, so there is no confusion as to where he originates from.Baggins 17:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Why did you removed the Famous Named? N'Nanz 19:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Its been moved over to pit lords an article that spotlights neutral hero class/unit of The Frozen Throne.Baggins 19:43, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

OK then. And the Source for Timmanrug? N'Nanz 20:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Horde Player's Guide, or Alliance Player's Guide, in a short story included in one of those books.Baggins 20:15, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Timmanrug is not killed at the end of the story. Like most short stories, it ends unresolved. And why are all of the Pit Lords in Outland listed as dead and not killable? Austin P 16:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually after going through alot of the short stories. I discovered that while there are ones that are left unresolved I'd say most actually are resolved in some way.Baggins (talk) 06:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


Someone was saying they can be hunters. Isn't that too non-evilish for them?  IconSmall HighElf Male.gif Mr.X8 Talk Contribs 02:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Ever seen Beauty and the Beast? Hunters can make excellent villians, just as with any other class. An evil hunter who kills out of sadistic pleasure; a shadow priest who seeks the end; an amoral mage seeking power (that one's bee done to death!), and a paladin who sees only the black and the white, never the grey. Annihilan hunters? No problem. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 15:14, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


I have a feeling that that scale model is wrong. Thrall was not that short next to Mannaroth and Orcs are not must taller than human. BobNamataki (talk) 21:55, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

The scale is using WoW models of pit lord and human, it'll naturally look different from the completed rendered cinematic in Warcraft III. They probably intended for this scale to be the actual size difference. Orcs can be a head taller than humans, they'd look a bit larger in comparison. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 14:04, October 20, 2009 (UTC)