Talk:Dark Horde

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Article merge and name

Why is this a merge candidate?--Hobinheim 00:48, 22 November 2006 (EST)

Because it's just another article about the same subject.--K ) (talk) 01:56, 22 November 2006 (EST)
The content has changed considerably since I added that banner, so that we now have:
The latter two articles are quite clearly distinct now, and I don't think it makes sense to merge them. I would support renaming them, though, since both article names sound like official terms, but are not. I would suggest Horde (pre-Thrall) and Horde (Rend Blackhand), with a Horde (disambiguation) linked from the top of all three articles.--Aeleas 00:45, 26 November 2006 (EST)

I'm pretty sure the term "Dark Horde" is used in one of the rpg books, but I'll look into that later to make sure.Baggins 01:52, 26 November 2006 (EST)

Alright, no refrence to a so called "Dark Horde", however there is a refrence in WoWRPG core rulebook to essentially two types of horde, those under Thrall, and another leady by warlocks that want to lead the main horde back to the way it was. Interesting information, but really has nothing to do with horde lead by Rend Blackhand. Baggins 12:38, 26 November 2006 (EST)

Ah ha! Found it! [1] In the official troll compendium on the World of Warcraft site, they state specifically that "the Dark Horde (is) a renegade group of orcs, trolls, and ogres who dwell in Blackrock Spire. Commanded by Rend Blackhand..." So "Dark Horde" is an official term. No need for Horde (Rend Blackhand). --Mikaka 23:09, 11 December 2006 (EST)

I'd still say that we should make that Disambugation link to make it easier getting around, i had that problem in the beginning as i was searching for some lore sorrounding the Dark Horde -Rovdyr 07:41, 19 February 2007 (EST)

Should'nt the name of the article be something like Fel Horde? - User:Anuragsahay 0200 hours, 8 April 2007 (IST)

Forsaken allies

It appears that the forsaken have helped them at times according to the RPG, much like how Forsaken are allied with the Grimtotem tribe.Baggins 09:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

On the note of other allies, after reviewing various ogre tribes that appear in the rpg, specifically the Firegut, Stonegullet, and Torchbeltcher clans, Firegut being directly mentioned as allied with the Blackrock orcs, Stonegullet with the blackdragon flgiht, and Torchbeltcher with the Dragonmaw clan, I believe they should be included.Tweak the Whacked 14:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


Is the Dark Horde dead now that Rend Blackhand and Nerfian are deceased? I mean is blizzard gonna use the Dark Horde again in an expanison or is the Dark Horde dead right now?--IconSmall DrakonidBlue.gifMaelstrong 20:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, we don't really know if Rend is death, or do you have a source (besides the WoW quest) that state him as death? Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 00:22, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

no i dont, only that one quest.--IconSmall DrakonidBlue.gifMaelstrong 01:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

But I mean, if Thrall shouts out to everyone in Orgrimmar thats hes been killed and has his head mounted on his throne doesnt that conclude hes dead? Either that or hes in hiding, but that would seem unlikely since the Nerfarin would call Rend to help him in the fight in Blackwing Lair. I'm basically saying that are they defeated or not because they are being very quiet and unactive.--IconSmall DrakonidBlue.gifMaelstrong 02:32, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Although I agree with you, there are many guys who don't believe that this types of quest (when you defeat the boss in the quest) counts as lore. Also you may want to know an interesting fact, according to the World of Warcraft (Wildstorm comic) (set concurrently with the Burning Crusade) it is told that the Dark Horde is still a problem in the Eastern Kingdoms, meaning that, at least, in the Burning Crusade they are still alive. However Onyxia was killed by Varian at the time of the Burning Crusade, so Rend and Nefarian may have also died before Wrath of the Lich King. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 02:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Affiliation with the burning legion?

This has been bugging me is the Dark Horde still allied with the burning legion or did it die off in warcraft 3 reign of chaos? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zelaroth (talk · contr).

The Dark Horde as it currently exists is allied with the Black Dragonflight and not the Burning Legion. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 05:27, October 13, 2009 (UTC)
so not both? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zelaroth (talk · contr).
With the exception of the leadership, most of the Dark Horde didn't directly serve (or even know they were serving) the Legion. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 17:15, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


The Gnolls of Redridge enslaved ettin to do their bidding. But their numbers are very few and they are slaves so is that large enough to consider them a race? Inv helmet 44.pngInv helmet 119.png High Warlord Gentleman MoneygruberTheGoblinChieftain of the Gentleman Tribe (talk contribs) 22:19, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Do the Gnolls of Redridge work for the Dark Horde?--Ashbear160 (talk) 23:04, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
They are it's allies yes. Inv helmet 44.pngInv helmet 119.png High Warlord Gentleman MoneygruberTheGoblinChieftain of the Gentleman Tribe (talk contribs) 23:29, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
In a very roundabout way... adding classifications like that is weird.--SWM2448 00:21, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
So i think both should count as allies--Ashbear160 (talk) 00:24, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
It seems very odd to me to list the merest handful of mentally-dominated ettins as "allies." -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 23:38, 25 November 2011 (UTC)