Can someone tell me how to edit this table? there is alot of information that needs to be added. thx still no luck finding the table to edit
Confirmed yellow for mageroyal and briarthorn, green for earthroot and mageroyal.
- Bil 21:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- Done CJ 05:45, 24 October 2006 (EDT)
While all the other columns in the table are color appropriate (they match their names) the "Grey" column is colored Bright Green. Please change this to grey or white or if you have to a shadow of blue. Having it be Light Green is just misleading and definitely visually distracting.
More information request
I dunno how to change the table, or I'd do it... can someone add at what level of inscription the various herbs are millable? (for the inscription profession) --Azaram (talk) 05:59, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- The information is available in Inscription ingredients, but this is where I thought to look first. I think it'd fit well here... --Azaram (talk) 06:14, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
A few apparent discrepancies need to be verified
Almost all of the data shows a simple pattern for skill color tiers, where an herb skill goes yellow at minimum required + 25, green at minimum + 50, and gray at minimum + 100. But there are several exceptions shown in the chart, where the yellow skill level doesn't follow this pattern (Wild Steelbloom, Grave Moss, Kingsblood, Fadeleaf, Wintersbite, Firebloom, Arthas' Tears, Golden Sansam, and before I fixed them, Stranglekelp and Bruiseweed). All show the yellow skill as 5 points higher than you'd expect (except for Golden Sansam, which perversely shows it 5 points lower).
I'm very skeptical that out of a big chunk of computer-generated data, only a few data points don't line up with the rest, especially when all the discrepancies are very similar and don't appear to make any sense. And in fact, I was able to specifically test and verify the orange->yellow transitions for Stranglekelp and Bruiseweed, and found that the chart was wrong, and they actually do change to yellow at minimum skill + 25 as you'd expect (fixed).
I don't have any characters in a good position to test the other herbs right now, but it would be good if people could keep an eye on these numbers and verify and/or correct them when possible. I'm reasonably certain the other yellow skill values listed are wrong as well and need correction.
XP table for each herb
- Hopefully I'm adding this comment correctly. Kinda new to talk page editing. I'm leveling herbing on my low-lvl paladin and I'm willing to keep track of how much xp she gets for what herb at what level. But I'm not sure how to 'normalize' this. IE, she's 28 and gets 24 xp (while having rest xp) from herbing an Earthroot node. Since I'm pretty positive at this point that herbing and mining xp consumes rested xp, and an Earthroot node is much lower than a lvl28 would usually being going after, what does that mean the 'real' xp-value of herbing Earthroot is? Also, my now-71 DK who's also doing herbing+mining, I'm pretty sure I saw an increase in xp value when she went from 70 to 71, but was still herbing in BT (i sort of recall Goldthorn being 4125? and at 71 it's 5k even?). But I'll make sure from now on to watch level-herb-xp-rested and write it all down, and maybe someone else can sort it out. Where's a good place to dump that info? Seems like it could get pretty crowded to just put it all here...? SannaSK (talk) 20:24, October 25, 2010 (UTC)
- OK, here's a couple new things. I think the pally's level stayed the same (but i'm not 100% positive, only about 70%), and now at a slightly higher herbing level (like, 35 vs 15 before), Earthroot only gave me 20 xp. So it's probably worth tracking herbing skill also, in addition to playerlvl + herb name + are you rested + how much xp did you get. Also: has anyone noticed that being in a group with a miner/herber gives you skill when they loot something? I'm not positive that's what happened but I was in DTK just now and no mobs were being fought, but one of my groupmates herbed something and I got like 4k xp randomly on my screen. So. That's kind of interesting. SannaSK (talk) 14:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
When is a herb not a herb?
The thing is, as far as I know Desecrated Herb is a herb. It's gathered by herbalists, from herbal nodes, goes in herb bags, and is called a Desecrated Herb. Plus, its icon and supposed physical substance itself is a herb. It seems kinda simple.
The only reason I know of to consider Desecrated Herb to not be a real herb is that it isn't used in any alchemy recipes. It doesn't have its own nodes, but neither does . There are other 'herbs' that are only quest items, etc, and therefore are not listed with the 'real' herbs, but none of these qualities are the case for Desecrated Herb. There are also some non-herb items gathered from herbal nodes that go in herb bags - such as - but these are not called herbs, nor do they or their pictures represent herbs. Despite its lack of use in recipes (although it is still useful for milling) I believe the above points and its close involvement with the other herbs (found only in Sha-Touched Herb nodes) show it be a genuine herb.
- My opinion is that while the is an herb, it is only acquired from Sha-Touched Herb nodes, and in the table the far left column lists the Node, rather then what herb the node produces. Since has no node, it should not be listed as a node. It should be listed in the loot table from the Sha-Touched Herb node, which by the way is only a node and not an herb. If these tables were written as "This herb comes from this source" rather then "This source drops this herb", then it would be listed, but since Sha-Touched Herb drops multiple, this is a poor way to do it. Sraw (talk) 02:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
- Similarly, should not have its own node, while the ' should, since they do have their own node in Wintergrasp. Sraw (talk) 02:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)