Talk:Nielas Aran

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Should the picture of Shade of Aran from Karazhan be moved to this page? Seeing as how it was confirmed to be him? - User:Erissia

Just a thought: Perhaps the spirit of Nielas Aran became trapped in Karazhan after Khadgar summoned the vision of him and Aegwynn. It's a bit of a stretch, but the only way I can see with the current lore. --Prophet 23:03, 8 March 2007 (EST)


Two random Warcraft III Archmage hero names are Nilas Arcanister & Aran Spellweaver. When was Nielas Aran's first appearance already? Just to know which way the lore data bank was pillaged.--K ) (talk) 18:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Deep Sleep

Wasn't Medivh's deep sleep after his battle with trolls as recounted in the book The Last Guardian, and not when he touched Nielas? Rolandius (talk) 09:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


Shouldnt "Archmage of the Kirin Tor" be removed? I though he was only Conjurer of Azeroth and an Acolyte of Tirifal Eity

Removal of Speculation

I removed the Speculation from the page seeing we now know how Nielas turned to be in Karazhan or how he died.

I however, if one of you wish to return it but but edited, here it is

This article or section includes speculation, observations or opinions possibly supported by lore or by Blizzard officials. It should not be taken as representing official lore.

It is possible, considering that it was well known that mysterious visions lurked the halls of Karazhan, that Nielas' spirit was drawn to the tower because of a vision experienced by Khadgar decades before - showing Nielas and Aegwynn shortly after Medivh was conceived. 'Eya (talk)

Another thing, from where'd you get the newly-inserted info? The one describing exactly how Aran died, regarding hundred clerics etc etc? Would love to know. 'Eya (talk)

I cited the article, so you can check the primary soure. I also put back the speculation, although I don't have the comic and don't know if it was explained there, there is no known source to me that tells why Nielas' Spirit would go back to Karazhan and that's what the speculation try to explain. Finally I removed the info you added in the "Death?" section as it was retundant to the article (was explained in the above and below sections). If the comic revealed otherwise please add it, but put the citation please ;) Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 17:51, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Ah, well, I suck at creating good information. However, no, it does not mention anything regarding where Nielas and Medivh were in when that happened. (Simply mentioning how it happened). Just add to the speculation that he may have died in Karazhan, seeing he apparently and most definitely not die in Northshire. Though, was Karazhan already there, or has Medivh built it himself? If he did, then I've no clue how Nielas got there, if it was already there, there's a good chance Nielas died there. If the latter is true, then add it to the speculation please. ;) 'Eya (talk)

"Existing long before Medivh inhabited it, it is unknown who originally built Karazhan or who now resides within its walls." -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 21:48, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Oh, now I see, that was your point Eya. I added it again to the article as an alternate speculation instead of removing the one that is already there. Benitoperezgaldos (talk) 01:07, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

Council of Tirisfal

What stated that he was a member (acolyte) of the Council in the first place? Checked briefly War I and II manuals and found nothing. --Mordecay (talk) 19:53, 26 March 2016 (UTC)