Dealing with retcons
In other articles, I've generally been treating the retconned version as the "true" version, and linking to this page if it was a significant, confusing (e.g. Stormwind and Azeroth), or controversial (e.g. Cenarius' mother) change.
I was trying to think of other things that could be added to this page. I believe there was a few problems with the timeline regarding Beyond the Dark Portal and Day of the Dragon; however they clarified that might qualify as a Retcon. The timelines around the opening of the Dark Portal, and the end of the First War, also strike me as areas that never quite sat right.
- --Aeleas 01:21, 28 Oct 2005 (EDT)
About this page.
Is it alright to add RetCons that aren't yet proven if there is good evidence? For example, things that were changed from one game to the next, but still lacking an official "correct" version?
--Dreyfuss of Durotan 14:44, 30 Jan 2006 (EST)
- Adding unsupported retcons is okay, but you should mention something to that effect in the Discussion page. --Fandyllic 3:21 PM HST 8 MAY 2006
Garona
"In later sources, she is described as being half orc and half draenei."
The article says that, but besides a few theories by Caydiem on the forums what other source says that Garona was "Half-Draeni"?
I'm pretty sure the RPG doesn't state Garona to be half-draeni. Metzen himself has decided to say "No comment" on the issue. I don't think any of the novels have altered the issueBaggins 17:08, 9 April 2006 (EDT)
Last Guardian says she's half Draenei. They go out of the way to explain that she's partly from another race on the horde's home planet and is thus an outcast. I think folks are confused because most Draenei seen in game are mutant ones whom were exposed to the portal's energies when it collapsed and are burned. They are suppose to be even more human like than Orcs. (unsigned comment by User:Elfey)
- The Last Guardian doesn't say she is half draenei. In it, she says that when an orc looks at her, he will see only her "human parts." Medivh says that her homeland must have had "humans or near-humans." The This may indeed refer to draenei, but that's conjecture.--Aeleas 12:55, 28 April 2006 (EDT)
- The "Near-Human" comment doesn't necessarily mean "draeni" either, it could refer to some other race we haven't yet seen. Burning Crusade is supposed to establish all sorts of new races on Outland. All we know is Metzen is tight lipped on the issue and he may have something planned that goes beyond any previous conceived ideas.Baggins 15:13, 8 May 2006 (EDT)
Mistakes with Grom Hellscream's, Mannoroth's, and Magtheridon's Deaths
Does this really belong on the retcon page? Those were just errors that the developers of the WoW RPG have admitted to. So it's in no way a retcon but a mistake some author made. I agree though that it probably can't hurt to include that information somewhere, especially for people who read the WoW RPG and then go like "WTF?!? Thrall killed Grom?!?" --Foogray 15:21, 13 April 2006 (EDT)
I thought it was better to put it in this section, then put it in Grom's Manneroth, Illidan, or Magther's sections... At least it shows it was a mistake, and that editors came up with "fixes" to explain them away.Baggins 15:51, 13 April 2006 (EDT)
- the Swamp of Sorrows was the Swamps of Sorrow.
Actually it was also known as Swamp of Sorrows in Warcraft 1, in the game's manual...
Orc warlocks
I don't think this really qualifies as a retcon. We saw that there were still practicing warlocks in the Frozen Throne orc campaign, and I don't think it was ever stated the Thrall was successful in getting rid of every last warlock.--Aeleas 11:21, 26 September 2006 (EDT)
- I don't it it qualifies either - it's not as if warlocks are welcomed with open arms in Orgrimmar. -- Kirkburn (talk) 11:34, 26 September 2006 (EDT)
War of the Ancients
Not at all !! It's completely false ! The majority of the events in Warcraft 3 and WoW match the original timeline and not the altered one ! The lone exception is the fact that we haven't seen much of Hakkar the Houndmaster in the current games, but that's all !--Kirochi (talk) 09:30, 27 September 2006 (EDT)
- That's what it says, isn't it? -- Kirkburn (talk) 11:50, 27 September 2006 (EDT)
- The only thing that differentiates with out a decent explination in WoW from WarCraft I And II is the loaction of the swamp of sorrows to the Blast Land (previously the Black Morass). In the first two games the swamp of sorrows was south of the Black Morass. In WoW the the Swamp of Sorrows is North of the Black Morass.
Speculation
I've created a new article at Retcon speculation, and moved several sections there. I think this article is long and complex enough to warrant a completely separate article for speculation, otherwise Template:Tlink will occur about a dozen times. The criteria I've set out in the intro here is that, for inclusion in this article, an apparent discrepancy must describe two clearly conflicting sources. Official statements that reconcile the apparent discrepancy are also included. All alleged retcons that aren't clear contradictions between two source (for example, it was not definitively stated that Kael led absolutely all high/blood elves in The Frozen Throne), and all theories for reconciling apparent discrepancies are in Retcon speculation, where they are clearly flagged as unofficial.--Aeleas 14:05, 14 January 2007 (EST)