Talk:Warlock abilities

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I am mighty jealous of the Mage abilities and I suggest we copy it. Mmm...--Hobinheim 11:49, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

some extra info

Can someone add some extra info for the lock abilities. I also want to know at what level do I learn the next rank of certain abilities. For example,

Shadow Bolt 1/6/12/20/28

Something like that...

ok this version from july 18th suks it looks like it was sorted by an illiterate. putin it back to july 15thEpiccollision 22:49, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Extent of Information

It seems like this page doesn't need every single rank of every single spell the warlock learns. I'd think that it'd be more efficient to model the tables after, say, Paladin Abilities and put all of the higher ranks of abilities on their respective pages. Thoughts? Slavakion 16:34, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with that completely. Right now the page is far too long, and contains too much overlap. I say go for it! Smiley.gif --DuTempete talk|contr 21:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Working on it. I have the main abilities done now, and will get to the minion abilities at some point. Slavakion 18:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Ahoy! Just joined WoWWiki and randomly decided to start here first. I've added a bit of extra information at the time of the page and sections, as well as reorganize the minion ability table at the bottom. Unfortunately, I don't know what images to use for a few of the abilities and there wasn't much info on the Doomguard ability pages. (I've only played a Warlock up to level 10 in the past, so I don't know that much about to class.) Hope the changes overall helped, and if not then let me know how to do better. --Fmmarianicolon 20:39, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I edited in something I had been working on a while ago. Personally, I think that the minion abilities don't belong on this page; there should be a small paragraph talking about the fact that minions learn abilities with a redirect link above it. But when I attempted to do this, I couldn't make any sense of the minion pages as there are multiple Voidwalker pages etc. Slavakion 19:34, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering, shouldn't Curse of Recklessness be removed from this page? The spell was removed in 3.1, seeing it here still is kind of odd. Gualdhar (talk) 22:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Levels Next to Spells?

Some spells are gained only through talents (as you have listed); but if u reached the prerequisites for each spell, you realize you will have to be a minimum certain level. I suggest posting these levels alongside the prerequisites so people can quickly glance at when their first opportunity to get these spells will be at.

Stephenhecht (talk) 09:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Help me!

Please, do something with Drain Life and Rain of Fire. I have no clue where they are supposed to belong. Also, feel free to add added glyphs and removed removed ones. Right now, my mind equals to [Curse of Exhaustion].--Adûnâi (talk) 15:46, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

In terms of general rules, abilities which are available to all warlocks should be listed in the general abilities section, while those available only to 1 or 2 specs should be listed in the appropriate specializations tables. Some specs share these, and that's fine, just list them in all appropriate spec tables.
Drain Life was a bit weird because it used to be a level 7 all-spec ability, but it got changed to a spec-specific ability; however its level req got left at 7, despite not therefore being available until level 10 - I assume this is what you're talking about. I've therefore fixed the level to 10, since players can't access it until level 10 makes specs available (I've checked). I can't find anything especially confusing about Rain of Fire though; it's Destruction only so it is currently correctly placed :)
[Curse of Exhaustion] and eventually [Curse of Enfeeblement] are, alas, well-known side effects of intensive wiki-warlocking, and largely unavoidable. -- Taohinton (talk) 03:32, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
As far as I understand, Rain of Fire is still available to both Affliction and Destruction at level 21, and then is replaced by [Seed of Corruption] at level 60 for Affliction only. Where should it belong then?--Adûnâi (talk) 08:17, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Well, I'm always up for a little investigation, so I logged my level 30 lock and learnt Dual Talent Specialization to try Affliction. In Affliction at level 30 he has Seed of Corruption, and does not have Rain of Fire. This is consistent with Wowhead data which says Seed is learnt at 21.
If this contradicts first-hand knowledge of yours, perhaps that's due to recent patch changes? Otherwise this seems solid evidence that Rain is Destro-only. -- Taohinton (talk) 16:33, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for clearing this out! Blizzard are still consistent in practice, if not in patch notes. So I've changed Seed of Corruption level requirement from 60 to 21 in this article. --Adûnâi (talk) 05:43, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Warlock Glyphs

Does anyone agree with this new layout of Warlock Glyphs made by Aquamonkeyeg? In my opinion, it's less clear and far more blurred than the previous version. Going by that logic, Minion abilities section should also be edited in that way. The same goes for Rogue abilities page--Adûnâi (talk) 17:12, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

I updated the class glyph templates and split the automatic from the crafted for all the classes. Instead of doing the same thing for each class page again (like they are for druid, mage, monk, and warrior), I opted to just transclude the class glyph templates. It's all the same information and all split the same. The only difference is that the automatic glyphs aren't sorted by level and it's displayed a little differently. I personally didn't feel the need to have 2 separate pages show the exact same information and have to be updated separately, which was causing them to be displaying different information (the class glyph templates were already updated for many of them). I certainly don't care if anyone wants to go through and make the other classes like druid/mage/monk/warrior, I just didn't feel like doing it myself and felt transclusion was the quickest way to updated these pages. --Aquamonkeyeg (talk) 18:57, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Alright then, thanks for explanation!--Adûnâi (talk) 18:58, 21 December 2014 (UTC)