Talk:Wildkin

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General term

What is the general term for this type of creature, is it wildkin, owlbear, or moonkin? I don't think it's owlkin as those only appear on Azuremyst Isle as far as I know. Just wondering if anyone knew of a convention for the, erm, subcategory of these humanoids. For now I am referring to it as "moonkin" since I believe that's what the elves call them and there is already a moonkin category... --<Jiyambi> talk || contrib 22:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

The terms are used like this:
  • Wildkin is used:
  • As the in-game name for the creature in W3.
  • As the name of several of these creatures in WoW.
  • As the name of these creatures both in Monster Guide and Manual of Monsters, and in the first one it is also used as a category where owlbeast fells into.
  • Moonkin is used:
  • As the name of some of these creatures in WoW.
  • Owlkin is used:
  • As the name of some of these creatures in WoW, the ones living in Azuremyst Isle.
  • Owlbeast is used:
  • As the name of a more ferocious breed of wildkin in Monster Guide.
  • Owlbear is used:
  • As the name for wildkin in the W3 manual (but only in the manual, in-game they are called wildkin).
  • As the name for a creature in the appendix of Manual of Monsters, a creature which seems to be a more primitive form of wildkin.
As "wildkin" seems to be the most widely used term, and even new quests from Cataclysm use "wildkin", I think this term should be used both for all these creatures, as for the "regular" wildkin. In fact, I think that is the way it's being used right now in the wiki.--Sega381 (talk) 17:26, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Better late than never, I suppose. "Moonkin" are (were?) found in Darkshore and are used as a form by druids. "Wildkin" is the name that they go by in Warcraft III, and most of the RPG, along with being on Azuremyst Isle, Bloodmyst Isle, AND Darkshore. "Owlbear" is the term used by only the Warcraft III manual, which seems to be a leftover from an early draft that was ripped off from D&D. "Owlbeasts" are larger wildkin according to Monster Guide, and are found in Azuremyst Isle, Winterspring, Hinterlands, and now Hillsbrad Foothills. "Owlkin" are found only in Ammen Vale. All that considered, I would think/agree that "wildkin" are the greater race/species/creature.--SWM2448 21:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Cleanup

The page needs a serious cleanup by someone who know the definitive facts about Wildkin. In the article it is mentioned around 4 times, in different wording, that they resemble a cross between an owl and a bear. There are also two "facts" about their fully-grown height, and their weight (one being 1000 pounds, the other saying 3000). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by FantomRedux (talk · contr).

In some ways, we suffer from being too accurate. For instance, both the 1000 lb and the 3000 lb notes reference authorized materials, IE "official lore". What is the difference between "an adult" and "a full-grown" Wildkin, for instance? How do we choose between official sources? In this example, we simply quote them both and hope for the best. There may well be some cleanup that can be done. I imagine that a lot of what are currently direct quotes can be paraphrased, and references combined. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 17:10, October 9, 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I cleaned it up, ordering info, and removed duplicate facts.--Sega381 (talk) 17:26, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

They do not speak

Aroom speaks perfectly fine in darkshore...--Ashbear160 (talk) 17:33, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Monster Guide says verbatim "Wildkin do not speak, but they understand Darnassian." Sooner or later every race can talk. Even mindless infernals (see Raze). I'm not sure what to change it to. "Some can talk"?--SWM2448 17:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)