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I made the detectospecs schematic tip elementary, having seen some other engineering tooltip be bowdlerized, by foxbot if memory serves. As I was unable to revive it trivially, I left it as-is. Perhaps I was in error to leave said other tip alone? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 00:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for helping me with the Brutal Gladiator's Vestments pages! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rainhoof (talk · contr).

Item stubs

What more information could be added to the pages from which I removed stubs? --Tiwuno (talk) 17:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Armor shots

I knew it didn't change... but I hadn't played my hunter in a long time, and after seeing Set look alikes I thought... well maybe it did change. M1330 has to be be correct once and awhile... guess not LOL. User:CoobraSssssssssssssssssssssssss User:CoobraFor Pony! {TDon't hiss at me.CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.) 20:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Same thing he's always going on about... pure speculation and desire... and great love of runemasters... User:CoobraSssssssssssssssssssssssss User:CoobraFor Pony! {TDon't hiss at me.CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.) 20:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

WoW question

When are we supposed to use the {{WoW}} header? Rolandius (talk) 11:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

It (like {{Warcraft III}}) is for lore discrepancies between games, or things that only happen in one game or book and are not touched upon in other lore.--SWM2448 18:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Basically, yes.--g0urra[T҂C] 19:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


Just like to say a quick thank you for managing to sort out all that vandalism done by User:Terribad. God knows what would happen to this place if we left it alone :P Warchiefthrall (talk) 23:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


I didn't see that you undid my entry. LOL I thought I was tired and was seeing things, and so I removed Garona again thinking I hadn't done it the first time. You can undo my entry again, but I did not make up the Spymistress name—although I am a guy. Spymistress Mehlisah Highcrown exists in Outland, so I thought she might as well go together with Garona Halforcen. Rolandius (talk) 13:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Bold edits

I get the feeling that you somehow don't trust my sense of taste... :) --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Gauntlets: I disagree. It's a disambig page. As it stands, there is nothing that looks like an item link to the individual items. Yes, there ARE links. But I argue that they don't LOOK like links. They look like tooltips. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Quite pleased. And I do thank you for the corrections. When I boldly go to split infinitives, the result IS a first draft. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

As you found the solution acceptable elsewhere, rather than have you trailing along behind me, is  [Plans: Felsteel Shield Spike] acceptable to you? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Must say that, with the 'more informative' disambig page style, I'm questioning whether the disambig template is still valuable on it. Mostly, I'm questioning it because I don't like how it looks there... Didn't mind it so much when the page was otherwise useless. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
It looks a lot better to me. I could live with it on the disambig++ pages, but I would not be as happy as without it. :) I'd approve it as a replacement for our current disambig template, certainly. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

"Did someone say, "Souvenir"

I've a screenshot: The quest name has the comma in it in the quest acceptance box. You've moved the page (some time ago) to remove the comma. Was the comma missing from the quest list dialog or something? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Your wish is my command. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
When I got the quest, I noted that those databases had the name incorrect. Thus, despite having found the name sans-comma on the very sites you name, I changed it. If you disbelieve that my screenshot reflects the current name of the quest, then the only resolution is to wait until October, when the event returns. I still admit the possibility that the name in the quest acceptance dialog might differ from that in the quest log dialog. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 20:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

re Grey Iron Weapons quest chain

Lines with carriage returns in them seem to bother you a lot. Enough for you to go in an edit the page, in any case. For me, what you did causes no change in how the page is displayed. So... why, then? What are you using, where having lines broken up does not display correctly for you? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I found the line breaks - invisible to the user - of value when I edited the content. I don't find them so very useful that I would go back and add them back in unless I was going to substantially re-edit the content, though.
I don't want to create pages that folks feel compelled to clean up afterwards, so perhaps I need to rephrase my questions:
  1. ) how did these invisible line breaks come to your attention in the first place? What made the line breaks stand out to you? (Were you just randomly edit-browsing pages?)
  2. ) What improved value does your edit bring to the page, if the line breaks don't actually affect page layout? (Note the implied assumption there, which you did not address earlier.)
  3. ) Does it matter to you for a specific reason, or does it 'just bug you'? It doesn't matter from a practical standpoint, given sufficient motive, I'd change my behavior regardless, but I'd still like to know. I have my own 'just bugs me' issues, so I'm willing to accomdate. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 18:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Abilities category?

Sorry for my conflicting changes on [Vanish] etc. just a sec ago, but I'm a bit confused about the right category. Can you tell me what exactly is the difference between [[Category:Rogue abilities]] and [[Category:Rogue Abilities]] and when to use which?

I read the notice on Category:Rogue Abilities as, "this is only for the abilities itself, related articles should be in Category:Rogue abilities". Did I misread that? Thanks in advance. --User:Xnyhps/Sig 14:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for Infobox_ability Template guidance

After you left, I completed the discussed changes (to make buff names and icons optional), and reviewed the testbeds that you set up at [Seal of Light] and [Mortal Strike]. They, along with my testbed Soothe Animal, all checked out to the original look, so I sent the changes to live and removed pointers to the sandbox.

I was irritated by the frequent "undos", but I'm glad I didn't let it show. You are very adept at expressing your critiques with very few words, and I am glad this community has you in the watchdog role. Cheers! User:JIM the Inventor/Sig1 01:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Casual Gamerz pages?

Is there a reason you deleted most of the pages that were there for Casual Gamerz on Sen'jin? I read the pages that you refered to that gave you your reasoning and they say that what was listed on the pages you deleted were valid data for those pages. I am not sure what your thinking was for this. Can you help me understand? Dparvin (talk) 14:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Please read the policy on writing guild pages, and especially the points about Wikisquatting and what's not allowed when writing guild pages and its subpages. I was not the one that marked them for deletion, and I cannot blame them for following the guild policy, and so should you. g0urra[T҂C] 14:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I guess I am missing something. I still do not see what you are talking about. I can see possibly some of those pages like maybe the professions one being what you are talking about. Most of those pages were there for recruiting purposes, for people not in the guild to know what is going on with the guild and to have an idea of what our rules are without having to join our forums and spend time reading the pages there. I can easily setup my own Wiki if I wanted to, I have done so before. I am not trying to do any Wiki-squatting if that is your point. The not allowed list does not say anything about the information that was on those pages so I am not sure where you are coming from as far as that goes. Dparvin (talk) 14:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

"not Implemented yet" not correct

I pulled the sausage information from screenshots from last year's brewfest. It is not correct to say "not implemented yet" for this case, any more than information added from this year's "love is in the air" event would be. Asking for information to be updated (IE "stub") could be appropriate. A caution that it was information from Brewfest 2007 would also work... but would raise a standard leading to all event information being flagged for the specific year it was gleaned from. ... Not in itself a bad thing, but a slug of work, nonetheless.

Got thoughts on how to make this work? --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 23:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Just didn't want to stomp on you {{NYI}} if you had a pressing reason for it. Going to update Essential Pretzel as well. ... just working through old screenshots, trying to cut down. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 23:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Children's Week quests

I see your fingerprints on some of the Children's Week quests, adding tooltip and etc. I haven't yet located my own screenshots from the children's week this year (though I think I did make some). Bough of the Eternals, as a particular example, you marked in the "children's week" category. As we do not currently have a Category:Quests:Children's Week, I thought to ask if you had any first-hand evidence of the correct category for these quests. If they did get recategorized (as opposed to "event" or "seasonal"), we should create the category, and put all the Children's week quests in it. Otherwise, we should probably put them in "seasonal", and add "category:Children's week" to the various pages. I'm good either way, but was hoping you had a record somewhere of the proper category, so they didn't get fiddled with twice. --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 19:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Removed unneccessary pieces of information

Please discuss why you believe the information you removed from the  [Arcanite Fishing Pole] article is not germane to the topic, on the talk:Arcanite Fishing Pole discussion page. Madkaugh (talk) 22:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Faster than you know it. g0urra[T҂C] 22:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox categorization

User:Gourra/Sandbox/1 is categorized - preferably can it not be? Kirkburn  talk  contr 07:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Sig move?

What does the "moved User:Rolandius/Sig to User:Rolandius/Sig2" mean?  Rolandius Wc3Knight.gif (talk - contr) 12:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Hunter pets table - centering

Thanks, I was trying to figure out how to do exactly that. Madkaugh (talk) 18:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Hunter pets table - icon

Why? How is this in any sense 'better'?

Along with the esthetic and clarity considerations, the icons do not link to the individual hunter pet articles, but to the page that holds the icon. Seems borken to me.

I do not feel like getting into a revision pissing contest with you, so I'll ask you to please fix it. Madkaugh (talk) 18:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Ronald McDonald

I realize it's a slang term, but if re-posted with more content (perhaps an image of a red and yellow gear durability avatar), would it still be DNP? Actually, to be honest, I didn't see a portion of the DNP rules that dealt with anything even close to my article. Any response would be appreciated.--Casternumber9 (talk) 22:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


We don't use "Source" as a section - it's either References or External links, never Source. Kirkburn  talk  contr 10:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Rolandius Talkpage

I'm sorry, I'm not native english speaker and I don't understand your response on the Rolandius talkpage. Do you suggest me to not edit the articles about Stormwind? If so, why??? --Novis-M (talk) 15:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Death knight quests

The in-game quest category is "Death Knight", so the cat'll have to be Category:Death Knight quests unless we want to do some hackery with the {{questbox}}. --k_d3 06:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Images Categories

Sorry. There's too many categories for me to keep track of. Hopefully soon though all the images will at least have one category on them. RealmS (talk) 15:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Undo at the warcraft pump

why did you undo my comment at warcraft pump? Hewbie (talk) 14:43, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Cause it's DNP... not to mention, nothing new. User:CoobraSssssssssssssssssssssssss User:CoobraFor Pony! {TDon't hiss at me.CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.) 15:45, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Changing a page name?

I just had a question, and can't figure out where to find an answer or who to ask, and you were the only one to edit one of my pages so sorry if this is misdirected. I'm still trying to get the navigation of this place down. I need to change one of my pages - currently it is named Desmidus_Crawford, and I need to change it to Desmidus_Krawford. Is there any way of editing that?

Egobrained (talk) 18:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again!

Thanks again for fixing my page!

Possible leaks

Could you, perhaps, discuss the rationale for your deletion of the "Possible leaks" section on the relevant discussion page? I'm a bit concerned that WoWWiki's unfounded speculation is acceptable, but linking to widely re-posted and discussed speculation from other popular WoW sites is being immediately removed. -Deepone (talk) 13:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

crafting headers/lists

what do i need to do to use {{loot|<quality>|<page_name>|<optional_item_name>|<db=wotlk>}} with the crafterheader and crafterlist? i used the area52 templates for pre-tbc but they wont work for wotlk. tyvm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Baldylox (talk · contr).

That's because they don't exist in the WoWWiki database yet. g0urra[T҂C] 17:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

im new to wiki so im not sure how to respond..if i comment here or again at your talk page.

the {loot} that i posted above does work and i would like to integrate it into a template similar to the crafterlist. thats what i need help with.

My Girlfriend had a

It is a forum trend, other Forum trends are up on WoWWiki so why can't this one.

Famous forum trends. This one barely made 12 pages. Kirkburn  talk  contr 16:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

On Prev/Next questbox links

What I've been doing, for quest links, is using questlong for links to the first quest in the chain only, on the rationale that if you were doing later ones, you had to already have done the previous ones. ... with an exception for chains that have a level gap (like the Ungoro Silithid chain whose name I forget just now...). I'm not invested in the strategy, I just saw you were (similarly) doing questlong->quest.  :) --Eirik Ratcatcher (talk) 15:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


i saw you undid the info i added for wretched, you said that they were fel bloods. i think you misunderstood it, i was talking about the wretched at quel'danas, not the felblood elves. i hope you dont mind that i undid your undo.--Whitedragon254 (talk) 16:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Much Appreciated!

I've noticed you've been editing some of my fanfiction lore pages and such. I just wanted to say thanks for helping me clean them up. They're my first pages on any wiki so those tiny details you've tidied up have been making all the difference, especially concerning the links to my other pages. :) ~ Zesarra


Thank you for improving the pictures I've set for the new NPC articles that I've been creating. Appreciate it!--Mistertrouble189 (talk) 18:01, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Vrykul Speculation

The quotes from king Ymiron are perfect material for speculation. Why does it have to be removed when it's tagged as such? :)


I think I got it. x)

In npcbox, city = is deprecated, please do not use it...

You recently undid my change to Shattrath City Peacekeeper by switching |repfaction= back to |city=. Please don't do this. If you look at Template:Npcbox and the source of Help:NPC_articles/Preload, |repfaction= is the recommended usage. The reason for this is that the variable doesn't really represent the city anyway. --Gengar orange 22x22.png Fandyllic (talk · contr) 6:51 PM PST 19 Aug 2008


You said, "After "ominous island" was moved, and original page deleted, he recreated it with a confrontational signed message." When did I do that?  Rolandius Paladin.gif (talk - contr) 02:21, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

My guild page!

Hi Gourra, just wondering what the reason(s) were for the deletion of my guild page - . If I broke the guidelines or policies, please let me know and I'll be happy to fix it! As long as we can keep our page :) Cheers Raxer (talk) 06:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for quick the reply. I will add the guild category in straight away! But how do I go about restoring the page we had previously? Or isn't that possible anymore. I checked out help but couldn't figure out how. Raxer (talk) 11:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
All done! Thanks again.. Raxer (talk) 11:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Dragon's Eye mineral

I need help splitting the Dragon's Eye necklace and the Dragon's Eye gem introduced in WoWLK.

Frostworn1822 (talk) 03:59, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi, re: your reverting the revision I made on Bog Lord - I understand why, but It's hard to track down that mob-level*5 rule.

The following pages need to be combined into one page, or tidied up a bit. Harvestable mobs Herb skinning Herb-skin


Thank you, one other problem.

Thanks for correcting the Dragon's Eye page.

However, I can't fix the same error in the Minerals page. Source: Mineral

Can you please help me out?

Foolish Endeavors quest

Hi, thanks alot for finishing the rest of the chain. Late night wikifying ftl. :D However, i'd like an explaination about why did you edited out the tips/details in the H [71] Foolish Endeavors. I'm not sure if i should have placed it under "Details" but isn't there a fitting spot for tips in the quest boilerplate? Amirw (talk) 08:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

WotLK Jewelcrafting Items / recipes

Understood. Any new items / pages will be tagged only with the proper quality category. You can handle any other additional categories that I do not know will fit into these new sockets. Frostworn1822 (talk·contr·achievements) 09:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


I don't want to do something to upset you again, but I don't see the problem with having a template redirect. Is there some reason it was deleted? I've accidentally typed that about a half dozen times, so I thought it would help. Mckaysalisbury (talk) 20:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

About my userpage

I noticed you edited User:Marluxia.Kyoshu twice, while I understand both times you were trying to clean it up a little, I didn't really mind my page looking a little messy, and both times, wanted it to stay the way it was before you edited it. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but could you please not mess with my user page again. Again, sorry if I'm sounding a bit rude. -HURR ~ THE INDIGO IS A LIE 10:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletions request

Hey Gourra, can you delete all these redirects and move Image of Razovious to the correct name → Image of Razuvious. Thank you ahead of time. User:CoobraSssssssssssssssssssssssss User:CoobraFor Pony! {TDon't hiss at me.CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.) 20:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Traitorous grounds >:(

GOURRA! This is a message from Potato Sack of Tomatoes. We do not appreciate the deletes of the redirect, as we are a vital addition to Waracraft lore, realm fandom, and are all around the best little dickens since The Little Rascals. WE DEMAND YOU LEAVE POTATO SACK OF TOMATOES ALONE, or traitorous actions will be answered through pitiful actions... like.. we'll cry or something. :( --Diagas 15:41, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

You're going to find yourself getting a ban if you keep this up. ~Just so you know~ User:CoobraSssssssssssssssssssssssss User:CoobraFor Pony! {TDon't hiss at me.CIf you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.) 22:46, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Can I just quickly say that I think this is the funniest post ever added to the Wiki? Warchiefthrall (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Question about a Deleted Page

How can I contact you to find out why a page got deleted? I don't know if there's rules about where to discuss it so don't want to get into details here unless that's ok.  :) I'd just like to know why so I don't get pages deleted in the future. Thanks.